Wednesday, July 31, 2013

Issue 128 – The Murder Bordello, Part 3

By Kirby Robinson

Continued from:

Listen to tonight’s radio show Don’t Get Fooled by “Six” Again! [7 PST/ 10 EST]


There’s no blood in the Murder Bordello--but there is LOTS of ego


It’ll be an in depth look into the story of how a community bought into a false account concerning the Murder Bordello in Galena, Kansas. It’ll show how the para-celebrity community jumped on board for fame and profit.

The book will also look into the subject of paranormal ethics, or the lack of ethics, within the paranormal community. Watch for it this fall.

The Klinge Brothers Separate Legends from Historical Fact!

Galenas Murder Bordello
This is Brad Klinge from Discovery Channel's Ghost Lab. My brother and I have visited hundreds if not thousands of haunted locations coast to coast and border to border. We have interacted with real history first hand. We have been able to separate legends from historical fact, and by doing so we have found that most of the time legends are born from fact. We are good at what we do, and our reputation is impeccable. Our goal is to bridge the gap between legend and history—finding those important pieces of unwritten history that complete the puzzle. Museums run by state university systems around the country are currently building exhibits based on our work and research, so even the experts in the mainstream look up to us. The Galena Murder Bordello gained our attention a couple years ago when we first heard the stories surrounding it. But we have seen the same old thing time after time—a old building that has paranormal activity and a story is made up around the true haunting to make sense of it. It is human nature to try to create an ounce of logic to explain the unknown. But the bordello completely blew us away. We found through our own tedious research that the legends seem to point to the truth. You can’t discount over a hundred years of family histories telling each generation about the murderous bordello. Court documents, police records, and newspaper accounts from back in the day also support its stories. This is what interested us in the bordello so much. Finally, here is a place where legend and fact actually meet, and the paranormal evidence support both. We recently filmed a documentary at the bordello that will be released this fall. This is our story of the bordello based on what we found—both tangible and paranormal. Now the story is going to be told on an international stage. This story is more than just a bordello, more than just murders, more than just local politics, and more than just ghosts. It is about ALL of the activities that culminated in the town in such a short period of time that allowed an imprint to made on the environment. So ready or not, Galena and its bordello are about to have a world-wide spotlight on them, and rightfully so. Galena had an important part in the building of this country, and the vices and malice that came along with success are equally important lessons—not to mention it sits right on historic Route 66. Everyone will know the story. Be watching for an official press release on the documentary in a couple weeks and a trailer as well. Barry and I will be in Galena for the Route 66 Festival next weekend (August 2nd). I’m sure we will be by the bordello a time or two while we are there, so drop by and say hi.

So… we have to ask:

1 You claim that your reputation is impeccable. Then how can you explain the times that you’ve been caught faking scenes, making false claims, and multiple cases of fake EVP’s?

2 You claim to have investigated hundreds, if not thousands of haunted sites. How many times were you paid to hunt by the owners of the site?

When you were paid to ghost hunt, how many places did you find that weren’t haunted?

3 How many times did you run into demonic spirits? How did you get rid of such spirits?

4 Please list the names of these museums at the state run universities that are changing displays due to your findings.

5 Please list the names of these experts that are “looking up to you.”

6 Point out any valid historical proof that you found [that no one else has] that the house on Main Street is the Murder Bordello.

Why did you try to cover up the contact you had with Carolyn McLean who knows the truth that that house is not related to the murders?

7 If this research is so tedious, why mince words? Let people know you find research to be boring and monotonous?

8 You state that “legend and fact actually meet…” Is this the first time in your career this has happened?

Russ Keeler admits that there is no “REAL” proof that it’s the Murder Bordello but he has a lot of crap to back up his claims:

Note he says that there is NO proof [historical]. He doesn’t really address the proof [historical] that it isn’t in the house but he sure has a lot of paranormal proof.

What’s paranormal proof? Photos of ghosts? EVP’s [Electronic Voice Patterns]? They are the so-called voices of the dead responding to voices of the living.

Can this be proven to be true? No. If you listen to the majority EVPS, the voices barely manage to croak out a few words. Why can’t the dead speak in complete sentences? Do we suddenly lose our ability to speak when we die?

But we’re putting the cart first here…

1 You’d have to decide if ghosts are for real.

2 Are ghosts completely honest when they talk to us? Look at it from the ghost’s viewpoint. Would ghost hunters respond to a Joe the Plumber? Probably not. But a killer “madam” gets lots of attention.

3 What about the people who say that there are no ghosts--only angels and demons? I find it odd that few, if any, ghost hunters ever capture an angel, GOD or His Son Jesus Christ.

So if you get an EVP from a demon how can you be sure that it’s truthful?

As you can see, there is no real PARANORMAL PROOF that a serious historian will accept. What Russ Keeler, the Klinge Brothers, and others hope you only see is the word proof.


Here’s a blog that backs up much of what is being said here

Katie Mullaly says it very well!

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Anonymous said...

Carolyn McLean

Loved the Blog...Truthful and to the point....

I always look forward to them..

Can't wait for the book...:)

Anonymous said...

Carolyn McLean here..

Blog #2 (last week)

roger leroy said...

Kirby Your a big man sitting out in California when you have no Idea whats going on in my neck of the woods you hide behind this Blog and you are taking the side of a crazy woman that no one in her whole town respects Get on a plane and fly out this weekend to galena ks And trash talk the Klinges to their face.
Roger: You are not from Galena so how do you know anything about Galena...No the money grubbers do not like me one bit.. They tell Great Grandmothers to "Keep their mouth shut because he, Brian Jordon, has done so much for the town...
Lets see:
1. He restored 'Liberty Hall" for his own purpose...In march People Paid $95/for one meal there and a "Ghost Hunt" in house that was not haunted nor were there any Murder's or Stafflebacks in that house..
You & Brad Klinge are so good at saying what the Galena will say or have said...Neither one of you "know" anything about us or our History..

Russell Keeler, Brad Kling, Chip Cofey and Lisa Martin... All of them saying that was the Staffleback house and 50 Murders on national television... when everyone of them "knew" the truth because I made sure..

"One call" to Marilyn, the pres. of Cherokee County Kansas Historical-Genealogical Society at Columbus would have settled this a long time ago..

Roger, I am sick of you calling me names for telling the truth..You are a rude and crude person like the people that you hang around with and if you think they will give you the time of day you are wrong.. If you think they will tell you the truth you are wrong..
Russell Keeler went bye bye... He thought he was above reproach and protected by the rich man and look where he is now...

I would bet that the rich man is donating to the Kling Brothers but he will get tired of them and they will go bye bye..
It is all over the United States what Russell Keeler and the Klinge Bro. etc. are doing...

Let me tell you something else.. No one in Galena Believed Russell Keeler or believes Brad Klinge.. Everyone in Galena knows the "truth"... From the Mayor to the owner and on down..

Now if Brad Klinge wants to come to galena and make a fool of himself again..Let him.. He sayes he has a document on the house..

Brad: You cannot have a "Document" on a "Made up Story" by Russell Keeler in June of 2010..In three years he did not come up with one document and neither can you...There are no legends here..Everyone "Knows" the truth..

If you are going to pick a story and put a murder family with it..
You should pick a story that was not all over the United States in all major newspaper's in 1897..

Another thing if you think the Galena people want to hear about morbid murders.. You have another thought coming..
"That house is a disgrace to us decent "God Loving" ethical and respectful Galena people..

I have not read one of your sites that is not vulgar and horrible language and no respect for the people of Galena at all..

You don't see anything on this site but respect and truthfulness..

You are not fooling anyone with the deceit and lie's...

Brad for someone re-starting or trying to restart your career you are making a big mistake messing with Galena and the S.E. Kansas Historians..

can't wait for the D.V.D. to come out and all of the lie's on it to come out... there were no murders in that house.. They did not need a wagon to carry the body and Lord knows what other lie's and misconception's are in that D.V.D. A lot of people are just setting back waiting for it to come out so they can expose you..

As long as you continue to "Deceive" the "Unsuspecting" public..$525/12 hr night/10 people..
We will be out to expose you all over the world.. If you want to continue being the laughing stock just go ahead... everyone knows the truth..
The Historical Society is open from 1-5 Tuesday thru Sat..

Anonymous said...

P.S. "Conspiracy to Commit Fraud" is against the law..and is punishable...
This is going to end up going bad and you will have only yourself to blame..

Anonymous said...

Carolyn McLean

TO: Brad Klinge, Russell Keeler, Lisa Martin, Chip Coffey, Michael Wallis...

I challenge all of you to meet me in Galena on Saturday afternoon..

I will bring my reams of articles from 1897, 30 plus drawings of the Stafflebacks and the "Shanty" and the "Grungy Little Log Cabin Brothel..Drawings from 1897.. The 1900 map of Galena...etc. etc etc..

Brad & Russell.. "You can bring all of the documents etc. that you have told everyone that you have on "Galenas murder Bordello" for the past year..

I will call all of the news media when you give me a time and a place...

eyeontheparanormal said...

don't hold your breath

Anonymous said...


They are going to "milk this cow" as long as they can...But the cow is dead or Is it a 'Ghost"....

Anonymous said...

Carolyn McLean here..

I just heard that the "Rich" Man, Brian Jordon, is building a "Replica" of "Union Chapel School"....

After all of the work that I have done on this..."He is doing it for spite".. The Mayor and everyone knows how much I care about that school all of the time I have spent on it and the research... The Galena Sentinel Editor put in the paper that the only thing anyone would donate would be the "Matches' to burn it down....2 years ago... I contacted the mayor at that time and asked him for help..He said it was outside the city limits...

I was given the School two years ago... I guess I will have to see an atty and maybe get it on the news... Don't know if that will help or not...

That man is beyond belief... Guess it will make a better book for Kirby... Hope he comes to Galena for book signings...

Anonymous said...

Carolyn here..


I had posted this before I found out about the school...Makes me sick after all of the work that I have done...
I have letters that I wrote asking the rich man and the Mayor for a lot in Galena for the Union Chapel School and gave them lots of idea's on the school...

I do not know since it was given to me...Do I have the right to the school? I would think so... But????

We need to stand up for truth, honesty, and History in our own hometown..

Take down 3 crosses in our park because of one person and do nothing about the "Naked" Lady on the north end of town...(For the want of decency is for the want of sense) Makes no sense what-so-ever to me! Lie about the house for profit...what does that tell our Children and Grandchildren...It is Ok to lie if you can make some money for yourself or the town... "I don't think so....

"One tired Union Chapel & Empire City Historian" who has spent 10 years researching our history, rebuilt "Union Chapel" Cook Room (which is full of group school pictures...Union Chapel, Greenwood in Joplin, and Empire , Also have 20 + books of this area schools; Tons of notebooks' on the history here..."Cherokee County Country Assoc."...."Memory Lane Photo Gallery", and Research Library for Union Chapel & Empire History........

Now they want us to donate for a $3,000.00 sign for Spring River Inn.... I simply asked for a lot in Galena to put "Union Chapel School (re-built) on... Because I told the "TRUTH" on the house.....That is evidently "Out of the Question"....

By the way we are also building a small replica of "Union Chapel School" out here close to the Orig. "Cook Room"...."Kitchen" 4x6, 'Big Room' and "Little Room" will be 8x10 each...Everything put into it will be made from the original "Union Chapel" materials, glass, oak flooring etc.... It will have a flag and flag pole, of course, and a child size old fashioned swing, and "teeter tooter" ...... The children of the people coming out here to research can play there and they will love it...

We are hoping for a September "Open House" on the "Cook Room" and the little replica of the school... If we can get some "volunteer's" to help with the labor..

So far two "Greenwood School" (MO) boys and one Union Chapel girl are the only ones working on it...

Anonymous said...

Carolyn McLean: Brian Jordon has..."Doug Gatewood" for an adviser.... I told you all about how he treated me in the meeting with him, the Mayor, and and Brian Jordon... He said that the Newspaper Records in 1897 were "not" proof and when Brian said that he would stop the "Staffleback" stuff... This arrogant egotistical Smiling Cheshire Cat who evidently 'knows" nothing about the "law"...."SHOOK HIS HEAD NO" at Brian...
6 minutes ago · Like
Carolyn McLean The Mayor said in the meeting that I did own the rights or own "union Chapel School"....

eyeontheparanormal said...

These idols would not know what proof is if it bit them on the ass they might like it but would not know it

Anonymous said...

Carolyn McLean...

Dear Mr. Jordon

“Rumor” has it that you are going to build a replica of “Union Chapel School”.

“Union Chapel School” is “not” up for “grabs“… We have owned it for three years.

I asked the mayor for a “lot in town” to put the school it on and that was all…Had nothing to do with an 11 member committee…None of their business..

I do not believe that you can “legally” steal our school…by replicating it..

We have been in the process of re-building it for two years..

We have $7,500.00 at least in the school…. (three of us) Plus hundreds, and hundreds, and hundred’s hours in it... I am an historian and I document everything… I spent nine months to keep it from being burned down.. I have a notebook of newspaper articles… Including the horrible stuff that “Michelle Dake Smith”, Editor of the Galena Sentinel wrote to detour the public from helping us. I have the letter’s that I wrote to the Mayor and every member of the city counsel to complain about what the “Galena” paper said…I have a letter asking the Mayor to help with the school…

I have the plans, the interior and exterior pictures, (pictures of the move when Ron Jones, a contractor/engineer tore it to crap moving it.. When he told me he could move it in big pieces) I have the shingles and the blocks here for the school that ’Tamko” donated.. I have letter’s from Wagner Interior of Nixia, MO.. Who will furnish the sheet rock and insulation, Liz at Allied Cement will furnish the cement for cement floors.. I can, no problem, get the materials but have had trouble getting volunteer’s to help with the labor..

I would like to resolve this without having to pay an attorney…

Therefore, I would suggest that you might want to come out here to “Union Chapel Cook Room” and see what I/we have done in the past three years. The Mayor is welcome also.. But this is mostly between you and me.. I will be the only one here besides my husband…
Any afternoon would be OK …. If we cannot come to an agreement or you do not call me.. I will seek legal council and call the news media… Your choice…..
cc: Dale Oglesby
The owner is doing it for spite because I told the truth on the house....

Anonymous said...

Me again...Anyone out
************I stopped by Liberty Hall to talk to Brian Jordon but he was not there so I went to the "Old Eagle Picher" and Dale Oglesby was there and a very nice member of the "City Counsel"....

Dale said that Brian Jordon was "not" building a replica of "Union Chapel" school.
I was there well over an hour..
The Mayor still thinks it is alright to use the "Murder" in the Bordello.. I do not!

He said that Brian Jordon could even call it the "Staffleback" Murder Bordello if he wanted to.. Nothing wrong with it! I beg to differ...

He said that it was the same as me calling the re-built school "Union Chapel"..
I beg to differ... Union Chapel School insinuates it was a school...Which is true..

Nothing changes does it!
Said no one would help me until I stopped.... I told him that I would never get into Galena Politics..

It was a civil meeting but nothing has changed for the better..

He did say that Brian Jordon had used my suggestion about the "Bordello Girls" and that he liked some of my ideas...

I am sorry but I still have a problem with the deceit.. No matter how you look at it is wrong...

eyeontheparanormal said...

a lie is a lie is a lie

Christopher Williams said...

Heres my take on this whole thing. I believe Carolyn McLean has this completely right, and I see her as being very passionate about the truth. I truly believe that if this location was the rightful location that she would stand behind the facts 100 percent.
I see people using a vague history of a murder to make large somes of money, and very quickly before the story is exposed as a complete fraud. I do think some involved are well intentioned, and that they might truly believe the story.

The family records indicate that there was a second story, but drawings and newspaper accounts are in conflict. This would mean one of a few things.
A: The building burned to the ground was NOT the bordello, but just the house
B: The building burned down was the bordello (which matches records) and was NOT the house (which also matches records)>
C: The building burned to the ground was both the bordello and the house (not likely)
D: The building burned down was neither the bordello nor the house (Highly unlikely)

According to all the evidence that Ive examined, from an outsiders perspective, it appears to me that the family lived in a shack, but operated the bordello out of a grungy log house. Now nobody ever said there wasn't a second story added onto the actual home, but the accounts seem to indicated that the bordello was a single story log house. I think this complex case is quite simple if we can answer the questions about the actual home site. Is there a house still standing? If not are there records to beyond a shadow of a doubt indicate that the home site was a separate site from the bordello?

Im pretty sure that by location given in the details of the story, that the "murder bordello" was NOT the bordello that people are presenting. According to some stories, and some documentation it WAS a bordello though, but actually in the 1920s and 30s??

People attacking one another is not going to solve a thing. Id like to know the actual truth, so I agree with Carolyn. Truth is the most important thing we can possibly discover in this case right now.

In conclusion, Judging by actual evidence (that I have access to at the moment), and by drawings, and newspaper accounts, I can pretty clearly state that the ACTUAL murder bordello was burned to the ground. This has also been quite common throughout history with sites where atrocious behaviors have been exhibited.

Thanks for reading

Christopher Williams said...

sorry for any typos or auto corrections on my post. Clearly *somes is not the word that I intended to type. *sums

Anonymous said... .... check this out. This is Lisa L Martin's group.

Carolyn McLean said...

Christopher Williams
You are right on....
most everything.

But the "Grungy Old Log Cabin Brother" was attached to the 4 room deserted miners shack and the entire thing burned in 1897... See: Galena and Empire City History 1877-1977" or Cherokee County Kansas Watchdogs: Exposing Galena Corruption
Carolyn McLean