Friday, March 16, 2012

The Paranormal Christian - The Psychology Of Atheism And False Religion

By Reverend Mark Hunnemann

My regular job has overshadowed my ministry work this week with the advent of several travel promotions in the works at my company.  This of course took away any time that I had to write my blog.  However, my co-host on The Paranormal Christian, Reverend Mark Hunnemann, wrote an interesting article that I wanted to share with you and he  has given me permission to do so.

Please join us tomorrow, Saturday March 17, at 7 pm EST for our show. Also, we have been invited to move our show from to BTVN TV.  We will soon announce the official switch over date later, but we believe this move will allow us to expand our reach to help more people.

Pastor Michael Frisbee

Enjoy the following article, written by Reverend Mark Hunnemann.

If Christianity is true, then why are there all these other religions -or atheism- in the world.  Why all these different views of who Jesus is?  What I want to explore with you is a little different in focus than most of my newsletters; but it will have a bearing on why there is such a widespread misunderstanding of the paranormal realm. Why are there other religions?  Are they man's earnest search for God?  Is God happy with all these world religions?  What we see in scripture may surprise or even shock you. Our main text will be the first chapter of Romans, starting a v. 18.

But God's wrath is being revealed from heaven against all the ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who are suppressing the truth their unrighteousness. They know the truth about God because He has made it obvious to them. For ever since the creation of the world, people have seen the earth and sky. Through everything God made, they can clearly see His invisible attributes--His eternal power and divine nature, so they are argumentless.  Although they knew God, they refused to worship Him or give thanks. They began to think up foolish ideas of what God was like. Hence, their hearts became dark and confused. Claiming to be wise, instead they became fools.  Instead of worshipping the true, glorious God, they worshipped idols made to look like man and birds and animals and reptiles.  So God abandoned them to do whatever their shameful hearts desired.  and did unclean and dishonorable things to each other’s bodies.  They exchanged the truth of God for a lie. So they worshipped and served the created things instead of the Creator, who is worthy of eternal praise. Amen!
(Romans 1:18-25, my translation)

We have this notion that folks just innocently come up with new ideas about God or the paranormal, and it’s just part of being human. Even more, religion is viewed as a noble thing where Buddha or Muhammed or (fill in the blank) are seen as creative thinkers who are earnestly seeking God for themselves and their people. Just today on Facebook, Pastor Mike and I were engaged in a conversation with a couple of folks who were arguing that all religions were the same and that the Bible can be interpreted in many ways.  The paranormal claim has become an informal religion for millions; or it at least provides a foundation for a view of the after-life.

In v. 18 we see that God is currently (present participle) pouring His wrath out on folks. Why?  We see in subsequent verses that there is a sense in which every person knows God or has knowledge of Him; knowledge of his existence, glory and holiness..not just His burning moral purity, but His "Otherness" or "God-ness". (when you add the traits mentioned, it can be summed up in one word "holy") And this knowledge of His existence and character is said to be "obvious".  Many people have the fear of the different or unknown; this is infinite differentness. This is NOT saving knowledge of God, it is a creatures knowledge about God. We know He exists, that He is gloriously creative and that He is holy.  What do people do with this knowledge?  Do they treasure it?  Do they turn around and worship this Holy God?

v.18 They suppress (katekownten, to push down--like pushing down a spring and holding it down) this knowledge about God.  You are probably familiar with this term (suppress) in regards to psychology. If someone has a traumatic experience as a child, they suppress that memory - they push it down beneath conscious level. Everyone is exposed to this knowledge of a holy God, which is traumatizing to them due to their sinful condition. Folks the world over are traumatized by this universal knowledge and, like a spring, they push it down and keep it down.  Are people sent to hell for not accepting a Jesus they never heard of?  No, they are hell-bound because all of us have rejected the Father. Those who have heard of Jesus are in double jeopardy.

In Mark 6:45-52 is the famous "ghost text", which was appealed to in the Facebook discussion I mentioned earlier as proof that Jesus believed in ghosts, because He did not rebuke the disciples thinking He was a ghost. Actually, the Holy Spirit's intent of this passage is quite the opposite, as seen in v. 52 - which acts like a self-summarizing observation on all that had proceeded. Everything they said and did was done as an expression of unbelieving and fearful hearts. (phantasm in that context means superstious imagination) It is 3 am, and likely a Satanically caused sudden storm threatens to overwhelm the boat the disciples were in. Jesus comes walking out on the water (which is when they lost their marbles and thought their very much alive Master was a ghost), calms them down, and then when He steps in the boat, the storm immediately ceases and becomes placid. We know that before they had been frightened, but notice their emotional reaction to this extraordinary display of His "Otherness", in vv.51 they were terrified! They experienced what Rudolph Otto referred to as the mysterium tremendum.  You would have thought that they would have sighed a big collective sigh of relief. Instead, they were more frightened of Him, and what He had done, than of a violent storm which they thought was going to possibly drown them.  In Isaiah 6, the prophet, probably the most righteous man of his day, collapsed as though dead, during his close encounter with the Holy One of Israel. He curses himself - he is severely traumatized by the mysterium tremendm (but we know that God tenderly restores him moments later) Again, during the storm, the disciples we frightened; after Jesus’ miracle which displayed His "Otherness", His deity, they were very frightened. Traumatized...

Freud postulated that the God hypothesis was invented by man in order to soothe our fears in the face of nature which could get violent and frightening. The only problem with this theory is that the biblical God is much more frightening than nature itself!  Witness the disciples reaction to Jesus display of His "otherness", witness what Romans 1:18 says happens constantly. It is not psychologically plausible that man would create something so awesome as the God of the Bible in order to deal with a lesser fear of nature.  So, mankind is traumatized by this deep awareness of God's holiness.  And this knowledge is so apparent, they are left argumentless; they have no acceptable excuse (v 20) Their defense strategy is first to suppress that knowledge of the one, true God.

But the wickedness doesn't end with suppressing of this universal, clear-as-day knowledge of God's righteous character. Before I move on, this is where depth psychology is interesting and enlightening in some ways.  Our minds are amazingly deep, or we could call it our heart as well--using biblical categories; the heart often refers to the essence of the person. In v21 we see the next stage, sinful and diabolical darkness and confusion descends upon a mind which is actively suppressing the truth. It is quite frightening to look at the biblical view of an unregenerate man's mind. Because the truth is being forcefully pressed down and resisted, this opens a person to spiritually delusional thinking. Perhaps you have wondered how an intelligent neighbor could believe something so bizarre as Mormonism. The noetic effects of sin (nous..mind) combined with a demonic heyday with your thinking; it can have the effect of leaving a maggot in your mind.

Just as nature abhors a vacuum, so the heart HAS to serve somebody.  The spiritual vacuum in the suppressed heart won't stay a vacuum for longer than a nano-second. So, an unholy imagination begins thinking of how to creatively fill that void. We are homo religiosis - incurably religious. Since we are made in God's image we long for spiritual reality. But without the Holy Spirit, we will never, on our own, choose the holy Son of  God. As the text says we begin the process of building a god in our own image.  And we are expert and prolific idol makers.  John Calvin said that humans were "Idol factories." That is precisely the point of this text.

In v 23-25 we are told that the next stage in this descent from the truth, is an exchange; psychologically, mentally, and spiritually...the truth of God is exchanged for a lie. Specifically, the truth (the creator God) is exchanged for the lie (the creation).Paul has just explained the psychological/spiritual process behind the creation of religion. "There are only two religions in the world." the Lord is telling us through Paul. There is the true religion of worshipping the Creator God of the bible, and there is the lie of worshipping the creation. There is no tertium quid or middle ground; you are either one or the other. We all deal with idols; things we put before the Lord and have to continually repent of. But either the basic bent of our hearts is to the Creator or to His creation. This is not an easy message to believe or share with others because it cuts against the relativistic grain of our culture.  How do you respond to this?  Do you grasp the fact that we are being called to make a choice? To not make a choice is a de facto choice for worshiping the lie.  We are either on the Lord's side or we are on Satan's side.  So, we can see that Satan is pleased with what the Lord is angry at - the multitudes of religions, because any religion other than biblical Christianity (and I mean BIBLICAL) Christianity, is on Satan's side.

This text refers to birds and reptiles as examples of this truth exchange which results in idolatry.  But that is probably not the form that is tempting you. Any part of God's creation which becomes our dominant life value is a lie we are worshipping.  Family, children, sports, work, investigating the supernatural, and so on are very good things, BUT if they become our dominant life value, then they have become a truth exchange. A dominant life value is really self-defining. What is the first thing you tend to think about in the morning, during the day, or the last thing you think about a night?  What propels you through life?  What opens your wallet?  What do you talk about the most; thus revealing your heart orientation?  Is the paranormal or the study of it your dominant life value?  From the large corpus of EVP we now have, does it reveal creatures who are worshipping the Creator or the creation?  Have you heard an EVP which states that Jesus is to be forever praised?  On a lesser scale, are there any views on the paranormal that you might be suppressing due to traumatic ramifications and exchanging with a lie?  "Iron sharpens iron" is the spirit in which that is meant. Now that you know that God is not pleased with religion, are you seeking opportunities to share the gospel?

While this newsletter may not have been a typical paranormal analysis, it does shed light on who God is, and give us some insight in how and why it may be difficult for some people to change their views.  Finally, with a God like this, do you really think He would be pleased at being left out of the study and discussion of part of His creation?  God hates religion, but He has a heart for the lost.  Do we?


Anonymous said...

I don`t know what GOD you believe in but my GOD is the creator of all things. He does,not hate anyone, hes loving caring. Religion does not matter, you go to heaven accepting JESUS in your hearts. What Bible do you read? You are being miss lead, and sounds like the God you worship is not a loving one either! You sound like a Johova Witness , you people views on GOD and the BIBLE are not what the scriptures really say! Perhaps your Bible is not the same ones as others have?

Anonymous said...

One Satan is REAL just as REAL as GOD and JESUS CHRIST and THE HOLY SPIRIT. The war between good and evil has been wagin on for eons since the begining of time and that isnt in the stone ages coz if you belive you came from monkeys your retarded! Its the same the one with more souls doesnt win as per say coz the war is already won When Jesus died on the cross. It was finished there. From then onward 2008 years ago i didnt matter if you were a christian or a satanist you do wrong when God comes back you GO TO HELL (A VERY REAL PLACE INdEED) you do good you go to heaven another very real place. Now the current situation is this satan already knows that he ahs lost the war but however being the sore loser that he is (no pun intended) he seeks to take as many people to hell as he can. This is very well documented and apparently is all over the web if u know where to look. It is very sad to hear that people actually belive satan isn real LOL. Well ladies and gentlemen you are goin to be in for a REAL big surprise. And for those that know that Satan is real yet seek to recruit otheras under the false guise that Satanisim is "the worship of yourself as a god and satan is only a metaphorical representation that your derive a rush in associating with" please stop coz your souls are also in stake and the fire in HELL is musch hotter than your ordinary micro-oven SO PLEASE GET YOUR SOULS SAVED AND ACCEPT JESUS itno your lives.

Anonymous said...

there is no heaven of glory bright, and no hell sinners roast. here and now is our day of torment! here and now is our day of joy!here and now is our opportunity! choose ye this day, this hour, for no redeemer liveth!

Anonymous said...

I want to believe in an omnipotent deity who can hear my prayers and fulfill them, but I do not see evidence of the existence of one in my life. On the other hand, I do not automatically discount the testimony of countless others who claim to have signficantly prospered by being a devotee of Satan as an entity.

I have been seeking someone personally to connect with who has had great success in manifestion through Satan.


Anonymous said...

I believe there is not god and no satan, but rather satanism is the force within me that drives me to serve myself.

If I am wrong, then I choose Satan.

Anonymous said...

It is good to have you on the "dark side". I get an extra thrill from converting people. Do you get the same feeling?

Hail Satan

Anonymous said...

My advice to all you satanists fools out there,Be a christian. Don"t Be a satanist. Satan is an evil **** Lets FLAME him down. Seriously why would you consider being a satanist in the first place.Don"t be a fool. Be a christian! God loves you.And what did you do.Ignore him and be a ****ing satanist. It"s not too late for you. Go back to being a christian!

Anonymous said...

two words Back Off It's not your place To tell anyone what to do or believe Look. you are who the hell you are Noone tries to change you so back off of people for believing the way they believe

Thank you


Anonymous said...


to the christians in the audience, i dont want to offend anyone. there is a misunderstanding between us (satanists) and you. so let me explain the premise of my beliefs.

i do not believe in god a a literal being, nor do i believe in satan as a conscious thing. Satan is a force, a force of nature. he is simply a force that exists, neither good nor evil. i do not consider myself an evil person, like some satanists claim to. i follow the path of freedom, individuality, and personal goodness.

that being said, there are different branches of satanism. there is theistic satanism, which follows the bible's cosmology of god/satan, but simply inverts the problem, choosing satan over god. most satanists do not believe this. most believe that the word "satan" is just a word. What it stands for is all that is human, all that is natural. There should be no inordiate rules or dogma, just freedom and compassion. I do not do good acts because of a fear of retribution from a supernatural force. i do good acts because they are good acts, because they are the right thing to do.

i dislike all religion. i dislike structure and institution. It is only so much wood and stone and cannot contain truth. i dislike the practice of mass submission to a false being. I dislike litany and prayer, and i dislike fear. for that is what christianity is, fear. the entire christian empire is based on fear, and to me, that is unneccessary.

Hail Satan

Anonymous said...

Why would anyone wan't to go from being enlightened to brainlessly following. To be christian means you must feel guilty for everything that is basic to human nature. Why is it that all God worshiping people feel the need to shove their beliefs down everyones throats? We are happy, well adjusted, intelligent, and don't need your advice.

Anonymous said...

To else first you sound like all christans you are not suposed to even think of such words.hipocrite don't insult satanist we don't believe in your consepts of opposit gods,we believe in self satan is just a model.I have read all I need about your religion and if you look for it your bibel says for you not to call anyone a fool it's there.follow your religion fully or don't follow it at for hungarian you call yourself a christan go fall on your knees you weak ****.as a christan your not suposed to wish death on noone.these two crap christans don't have a clue about there own religion so I think they need to shut there pie hole and stop insulting other's for there belife's.hail satan,hail self.

Anonymous said...

thank u sathanists i agree with you and think every one should stop judgeing so damn much!

Anonymous said...

As a Christian I have two things to say

1. I am sorry for those that are offensive and judge wrongly in the name of God. I hope that you do not perceive all Christians as judgemental or hypocritical. No one desreves to be wrongly judged by anyone else. to Christians I remind you " he who is without sin cast the first stone."

2. I pray for all your journeys in life no matter what you believe and wish all of you well. I pray for your health, happiness and well being.

Anonymous said...

my father is supposedly Catholic (never goes to church, confession, or reads the Bible. But still calls himself Catholic). He became angry whenever he saw my baphomet. I explained what it means and what it means to me. But he is a man to which undesired information goes in one ear and out the other. That is unreasonable.

I do agree that people should educate themselves with something before badmouthing it. It will be a great day when someone sees a baphomet and a sense of curiosity swells in them, and not provoke a surge of anger.

But (as I'm sure you know) LaVey explained in The Satanic Bible that he called the religion the name it is, to ward off those close-minded individuals anyway, and that in reality, it's loosely connected with Satan.


Anonymous said...

Laveyn followers are pussies , its not true Satanisim self God is crap and same with Crowley followers! True Satanisim is hidden and we know what were are doing, you would cry if you were in our covenet. Its more than power, we have some famous politics in our church. Not releasing anymore information #>:088 ¥*€~ **6.+6)6


Anonymous said...

Preacher Man we meet again >=). Do you actually read your Bible?

Satan is pleased with what the Lord is angry at - the multitudes of religions, because any religion other than biblical Christianity (and I mean BIBLICAL) Christianity, is on Satan's side.

This text refers to birds and reptiles as examples of this truth exchange which results in idolatry.


Read kings one and two before you try and preach.

Do you steal your articals too, like the angry pastor does?

Your foolish for writting non sence that has nothing to do with the Bible , those are not the direct passeges either>:o

Your not a pastor just some one who talks in circles HAHAHA &:=/?¥


Unknown said...

It never fails to amaze me the ignorance of the trolls that come on to this site.

I'll be praying that our Heavenly Father will have mercy on the lost among you, and send the Holy Spirit to convict your hearts of your error and ignorance, and be shown the Truth of God's Word, the Holy Bible.

Those of you that are Christians that think that God can't be a loving God by punishing those who do not obey His Word, then you are being fools and have not taken time to actually study and read His Word, and have been led down a false path of spirituality that denies the sovereignty of our God.

Only through His Son, Jesus Christ, can we be made righteous, our sins cleansed, and gain entry into the Kingdom of Heaven. The whole "All Paths Lead to God" stanza is a demonic doctrine to deceive the non believer and keep them from accepting the gift of Salvation that comes through Christ.

For you fake Satanists trying to stir up things, grow up. You are simply making fools of yourselves.

Anonymous said...

Trolls >P So you are calling all of us fat? LOL? Angry Pastor and your the biggest fraud of them all! Why? Dont we pray for you wait! We pray to the same MASTOR! HAHAHA...



Anonymous said...

Idol worship
Idol and demon worship is the worship of a man made god. It can involve practices and rituals such as burning their sons or daughters in fire at the altar as burnt offerings for demons.
Idol worship from the Bible's perspective: The second commandment talks about `Idols' and `Images', "You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form {of anything} in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below." (Exodus 20: 4)

You shall not bow down to them; for I, the LORD your God, {am} a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and forth {generation} of those who hate me" (Exodus 20: 5).

When you look up to the sky and see the sun, the moon and the stars - all the heavenly array - do not be enticed into bowing down to them and worshipping things the LORD your God has apportioned to all the nations under heaven."(Deuteronomy 4: 19)

"Be careful to do everything I have said to you. Do not invoke the names of other gods; do not let them be heard on your lips." (Exodus 23:13)

The worship of nature or any other god is considered blasphemous.

According to the Scriptures, the sins of the fathers are visited upon the third and fourth generations of those who disobey God. It is carefully pointed out in. Exodus 20:5 When the law was given, it specifically prohibited the construction and worship of graven images because they constitute the worship of demons.

For those who disregard this warning and make contact with the occult spirits, there will be a terrible and certain repercussion in the form of sickness, misery, insanity, and sometimes an early death. There are many ways in which the occult spirits are given ground. Through various contacts they can cause marital upheaval and problems of all kinds (please see chapter five for more details). Unless the curse is broken it will continue to plague the family and its descendants to the third and fourth generations. It predisposes people to be psychically oriented and sensitive; and through psychic heredity, to pick up more curses and spirits, thus extending the hereditary blight to many generations.

Anonymous said...

A converted witch relates that the initiation into Masonry (with two minor changes at the end) is identical to that of witchcraft! By embracing such rituals and vows, rooted in ancient witchcraft and demonic worship, men and women are placing themselves under occult power. The secret signs, passwords, hand grips, etc. which are so highly prized, in reality brings lives under secret bonds and churches are paralyzed where these secret loyalties exist and the Holy Spirit cannot flow freely. Jesus said He had done all things openly and had done nothing in secret, a startling contrast to secret orders which enforce secrecy on their members. We are commanded to renounce the hidden things of darkness Roman 13:12.

Baal was the same as Phoenician Moloch, the Greek Tyrian Hercules (Freemasonry call him Tyrian Architect). He was worshipped on the high places and this is the reason for the "upper chamber" lodge meetings to "worship celestial bodies." According to accredited Masonic historians, the lodge claims to be a revival of the ancient philosophy of Egypt, Phonecia and other Pagan nations. These all practiced a secret worship in honor of a sun god (Lucifer).

Freemasonry is a wicked system of sworn deception, fraud and cunning craftiness from beginning to end. Promoters are always careful, at first, to keep the real meaning of the pretended mysteries in the background, at least until the initiate has taken the Master Masons obligation. By that time he should be so bound that he will not revolt against the bondage he has unsuspectingly moved into.

The Lodge teaches that its three support pillars are Wisdom, Strength and Beauty, and these are borrowed directly from Hindu Mysteries in the initiation of Brahma. The Worshipful Master represents rising sun (east); Senior Warden, setting sun, (west); Junior Warden, the sun at Meredian (south). In every symbol, ceremony and emblem of Freemasonry we are confronted with nothing but the sun god (Lucifer), that ancient Baal worship in every religion from the Druids to Hinduism.

Masons changed names in the Egyptian mysteries from Osiris to Hiram Abiff but retained a similar legend for the initiations. They burned their manuscripts in 1720, interspersed the names of Hiram and Solomon to secure acceptance by Jew and gentile and appropriated the Bible and Apostle John to give it a "Christian" veneer. "Freemasonry both in whole and in part, is literally and truly the secret worship of Baal, or the sun god."

In Deuteronomy 4: 19 God clearly states: When you look up to the sky and see the sun, the moon and the stars - all the heavenly array - do not be enticed into bowing down to them and worshipping things the LORD your God has apportioned to all the nations under heaven."

God in Deuteronomy 17:2-3 states: If a man or woman living among you in one of the towns that the LORD gives you is found doing evil in the eyes of the LORD your God in violation of His covenant, and contrary to my command has worshipped other gods, bowing down to them or to the sun or the moon or the stars of the sky.

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Anonymous said...

Augury - Divination by the flight of birds. The word is used for all kind of divination, also for any omen or sign on which divination is or can be based.

Jesus further stated, "All that the Father gives Me shall come to Me and the one who comes to Me I will certainly not cast out." (John 6:37)


Anonymous said...

"What happens when I make a formal commitment to Satan?
Satan looks out for his own. Satan gives us an inner strength and we become very strong in spirit. Unlike right hand path religions, where adherents are forever praying and searching for their god, Satan comes to us on his own. Many times, we can feel him. He comes to guide us when we get down, worried, or are experiencing problems.

Anonymous said...

Indeed Satan loves you!

Anonymous said...

True Satanism, which is Spiritual Satanism, has nothing to do with "evil" what-so-ever. Satan is NOT a christian invention. Satan was a powerful and important Pagan God long before the coming of Christianity. He was known by many different names to different cultures, such as Enki to the Sumerians, Ptah to the Egyptians, Melek Taus to the Yezidi's, Viracocha to the Inca and so on and so forth.

His symbol in Ancient Sumer was the Serpent, because the Serpent represents power, knowledge and creation. Later, Christianity took this and corrupted it hideously, turning the Serpent into a symbol of "evil". What Christianity was la belling as evil was power, knowledge and creation. Christianity has always preached against power and knowledge, encouraging its followers to be weak, mindless sheep who never question and never learn, and never grow.

Christianity is a LIE and a HOAX, and there is more than a ton of proof for this. Its sole purpose is and always was to enslave and weaken humanity. Satan/Enki taught knowledge and liberation, and this is why he is la belled evil by christianity.

Even in the bible, Satan was never guilty of anything other than wanting humans to have knowledge and power. It was always the christian "god" who was the inciter of "evil", condoning and even demanding rape, murder, stealing, human sacrifice, cannibalism, lying and so on and so forth. All of this can be found right in the pages of the bible, if people would only open their eyes and look.

Christianity and the christian "god" are the true evil ones. Because of the christian religion, the world and the human race has suffered severe degradation. The Ancient Cultures such as the Sumerians, Egyptians and the Mayans had extensive knowledge concerning the world, the Solar System and even the Universe and often displayed this in their creations such as the Pyramids which align perfectly with Orion and so on. The Sumerians knew the correct shape of the planet and they knew of all of the Planets in our Solar System including the outer planets which our Scientists only "discovered" recently. They also knew that we orbit the Sun and not the other way around, and yet, when christianity came onto the scene thousands of years later, people were believing that the world is flat and held up by pillars and that the Sun turns around the world. Scientists who dared challenge the christian churches ridiculous views were even put to death during the Inquisition. It always created ignorance.

True Spiritual Satanism is Ancient Paganism. All of the Pagan Gods were blasphemed and turned into Demons when christianity came onto the scene. The world has gone down significantly since the arrival of christianity.

Hail Satan!
-Zildar Raasi

Anonymous said...

Ignorance is natural when approaching a new subject. You will find that Satanists are not the monster that pop culture makes them out to be, I like that they do sometimes, but that's not what we are 24/7. Ignorance is also not stupidity, stupidity is denying ignorance of a subject when ignorance is implied. You are very smart to come to a satanist and ask, rather than a Christian or Jew that will only tell you from their superstitious slant.
"The lie that is known to be a lie is half eradicated, but the lie that even intelligent persons accept as fact-the lie that has been inculcated in a little child at its mother's knee is more dangerous to contend against than a creeping pestilence!" -The Book of Satan 1:14

Lucifarian philosophy is good as long as we don't breach the lines of faith based theism. There is no evidence that Jesus, Buddha, Satan, or Lucifer exist as external beings. Satan is the opposer of faith based fabrications YHWH, Jesus, Miracles, External realms of existence.

Satanists observe Satan as the dark force of nature that the Satanist taps at will to live a vital life, free from religious guilt and self deceit. The Force is like entropy or gravity, not like some spiritual force that only people's empirical observations (which differ from person to person) can see. Those spiritual experiences, so many people use as reasons to believe in theistic forces, are often physiological and environmental misunderstandings.

Luciferianism is a more spiritual side of Satan, sometimes viewing Lucifer as the more justice and light side of life where Satan is the rebellious symbol against dogma. While this is okay to use, Lucifer took the name Satan (mythologically of course) because he opposed The Jewish god's skewed sense of justice, he opposed god because god threw him out heaven, like a tyrant would, rather than explain himself. God obviously did the same thing to Job, he failed to answer Job's question, as to while he was a test subject for god's will and power, he just told him that he was ignorant of god's power and he will never understand. Then he bribed job to keep his mouth just by giving him everything back but double.

To the Satanist, Lucifer and Satan are the same thing. Mythological beings that reflect philosophical values with in our religion. We don't worship The Devil or Satan, as The Devil is a bad description for an opposer. Devil means great deceiver in the greek, not opposer or one to question, it has no relation to the meaning of the name Satan. Christianity, Judaism and Islam relate the two names because they see people who have the balls to question religion as deceived or deluded to not take existence of great creators for face value (faith).
Satanists are satan's we are opposers and accusers of self-deception in religion and social society. We are above the "herd mentality" that Fredrick Nietzsche observed in White Light Religions and in societies deceived by convieint fads and cliques that maintain more control over their lives than they do.
If Satan opposes such a belief in gods, or external beings because that is what the god of the Bible, Quran and Tanakh was, then Theistic Satanists are only Heretical Christians, Jews and Muslims. They are also believing in a god and assuming that unexplainable stimuli are supernatural things. Magic is a natural force will and power of the human being, not of a god that opposes gods, that is a contradiction.

thank you zildar ,who is only 14 years old! hes a amazing satanist! chris, your a dark mason? your not Luciferanism.I can tell with the way you talk. that is dark and deep. yes those anton followers are cowards and young kids! satan and lucifer are as one!

hail SL

Anonymous said...

Although I am not a Luciferian, I do work with Lucifer in some of my rituals, and in my work as a spiritualist. In these cases, it's his embodiment of Light, and bringing illumination to the world, that I interact with primarily. He can be a male counterpart to Mary in these instances too (esp as Sophia), and together, they balance out the darker deities that I work with from the Hellenic pantheon.

This means I don't have a written doctrine to go by, and therefore some would see my way as invalid. In addition, although these could be considered Biblical figures, there are actually only a few mentions of Lucifer in the Bible. I don't see Lucifer and Satan as being the same, especially since Satan was originally a term used to describe anyone that was an adversary of the Abrahamic god. Ever wonder why this god stipulates that there shall be no other gods above him for his chosen people? Because they already had other gods, and he was trying to weed them out. i.e. in that sense, I think we could consider them all to be satan (enemy, rebel), because the victor gave the label.

Anonymous said...

Interesting post.

Certainly I do not subscribe to Satanist doctrine...and do not see Lucifer as some amoral lying psychopathic monster who delights in having humans degrade themselves or worse for his amusement.

Lucifer knows that the most fertile ground for a human being to grow in is when it is in the proverbial excrement.
Which is why Lucifer sends his/her servants into the thick of it.
Following Lucifer is not about hedonism or avarice or self is about rejecting those unimportant distractions so that one may learn.

Anonymous said...

"He that is slow to believe anything and everything is of great understanding, for the belief in one false principal is the beginning of all unwisdom"-Anton LaVey

Anonymous said...

So What dose Satin represent?Is it adversary? How dose lucifer fit into the jewish belief in God?
So God basicaly made all the other gods adversarys after he defeated them in pure combat then?Is that what you guys are saying then?

Anonymous said...

Maybe you should ask someone who practices Judaism.

Bobnoxious said...

I thought "Satanists" didn't actually believe in the supernatural tenants of religious allegory and only practice their campy rituals to mock Christianity.

I don't worship Satin but I do love Slayer.

Fred Brimstone said...

So what we have learned here is that like modern Wicca, Luciferians are basically new-agers that pick and choose specific aspects of various religious doctrines and belief systems to create a tailor- made, designer dogma that suites their agendas and chosen lifestyles.

Hey that's what Gardner did in the 1950's to justify raping children and voila: we now have Modern Wicca.

Bobnoxious said...

So ancient Sumerians and Pagans wrote the Book Of Satan? LOL

Anonymous said...

“If one were to take the bible seriously one would go mad. But to take the bible seriously, one must be already mad.” Aleister Crowley

Anonymous said...

again who said anything about Religion! What did angry pastor run from something,he clames he knows all too well?

Why dont you too? Ask the full knowledge man your self and see if he gives you your answer and he will point all fingers at poor little wiccans and pethetic Pagans, since he was one that got scared! HAHAHA

Deuteronomy 12:27:
"And thou shalt offer thy burnt offerings, the flesh and the blood, upon the altar of the LORD thy God: and the blood of thy sacrifices shall be poured out upon the altar of the LORD thy God, and thou shalt eat the flesh."

we dont touch little kids either!

Christianity was a reaction to the original Pagan religions, labeled as "Satanism" meaning "enemy/adversary" in Hebrew. If you read through the information above we prove this.

Christianity was invented to remove spiritual and occult knowledge (the powers of the mind) from the populace and place this power in the hands of a "chosen" few to the detriment of all humanity. The powers of the mind and soul are very real. People who are unaware of or who do not believe in these powers are easy to control and manipulate by those who are skilled in using these energies.

The angry pastor has you all brain washed!


Laura Crowning, find me on FB said...

oh how redundant another "shock jock" atheist/satanist anonymous coward, oh so does mommy ignore you at home? LMFAO!

Anonymous said...

Think in terms of The Law of the Forbidden.

"Consensus is the absence of leadership." Margaret Thatcher

"I'm fascinated with how primitive the human mind still is. It can be misdirected so easily." John Gaughan

"Success is uncommon. Therefore, not to be enjoyed by the common man." Cal Stoll

Fred Brimstone said...

Crowley, Gartner and all of you middle aged flabby occultists are generally pedophiles. Look at one of the preceding comments here where some creep is just soooooo ecstatic over the 14 year old boy exalting Satan.

Run from these predators child, they only seek your destruction and defilement

Bobnoxious said...

What's really funny here is all the pompous satanists arguing over who is more satanic and who can invent a more believable origin for their contrived religion/belief system.

What a joke.

Bobnoxious said...

The only "energy" manipulation you Satanists/Luciferians are "skilled" at is what microwave setting to use for your frozen burrito.

OOOOOOOOOOOhh I've done it now , they might use their powers and forces of dark energy against me!

What a JOKE

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Anonymous said...

You all have been refining your little spiel and might have gotten a few really dumb girls to follow you but here is the fact you/your faux belief can be dissected and shown for the made up contrived BS crap it is.

The Word Lives said...

<< 1 Corinthians 1 >>
New International Version 1984

20Where is the wise man? Where is the scholar? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? 21For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him, God was pleased through the foolishness of what was preached to save those who believe.

Anonymous said...

In 1513 when Niccolo Machiavelli wrote about the true nature of politics and leadership in The Prince, he outlined much of our current Satanic philosophy. Nearly 500 years ago he suggested that humans were free from conformity and were free to pursue their Will, along with hedonistic pleasures.

In the 1780’s, the Marquis de Sade discussed the absurdity of God and became famous for his carnal pursuits. A century later the much-quoted Friedrich Nietzsche declared ‘God is Dead’ and just twenty five years later Aleister Crowley transcribed that we all are gods. Anton Szandor LaVey embraced that which they had all written and gave it a title when in 1966 he formed the Church of Satan and wrote the Satanic Bible several years later. The great minds of the past inspire the great minds of our generation.

Anonymous said...

"Learn to accept, even welcome pain - for if you do not fear pain... if the thought of physical, emotional or spiritual anguish cannot dissuade you from the true path - then no enemy, however strong, can defeat struggle, however long, can deter you...nor circumstance, however wrong, can keep you from your destiny."

Anonymous said...

Here's a challenge.

Curse me.

Anonymous said...

Hate mail and unfounded Christian bullshit is always welcome to give us fodder to deal with and feces to fling back at you poor misguided primates.

Anonymous said...

If God is real, what kind of person is He? Look at the world we live in. He created it, and is omnipotent- that means that everything that happens is by his command- everything is exactly the way He wants it to be. Did you cut your finger today? God gave that an OK. God thought that you hurting yourself was a good thing. Did a relative come down with cancer? God didn't mind- they're not that important anyways. God says He cares, but not enough to regularly do anything about it.

Let's get an idea of who God really is. One famous scientist said that God must like insects, because He made so many kinds. Let's look for trends. God likes to see living things die- everything dies. God likes pain- everything living experiences pain and disease. God likes slaves, because in the Bible he demands blind faith and unquestioning obedience.

God is a bully. God hates people worshipping other Gods... in the Bible He says that He's jealous. He must be insecure. Of what?

God is not a nice person. God is not a good role-model. God is not human; He's literally an alien. God is not only confusing, but if you read the inconsistancies in the Bible, he's quite obviously confused. Do you trust Him just because He says that He made you? So did your parents, in a way. Do they know everything about you just because they made you? What if God's the same way?

God seems to give a mixed bag to us in life. There's no consistancy. Sometimes life is good, sometimes bad. Sometimes He lies, sometimes He tells the truth.

But everything will be alright if you love Him and obey his rules. Everything will be A-OK if you just pretend you didn't see through the lies. It's just a test of your faith- not a trick for the gullible. Just go back to sleep. Trust in a perfect God; a God in complete control. Partake of His peace. Just be nice, and wait for your heart to stop.


"I will act against you in wrathful hostility. You shall [be made to] eat of the flesh of your sons and the flesh of your daughters. I will destroy your holy places and cut down your incense stands, and I will heap upon your carcasses your lifeless fetishes...
"I will lay your cities in ruin and make your sanctuaries desolate I shall make the land desolate, so that your enemies who settle in it shall be appalled I will unsheath the sword against you." (Leviticus 26:28-33)

"The Lord sent angelic serpents among the people. They bit the people and many of the Israelites died." (Numbers 21:6)

"And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood." (Revelation 6:12)

"And a fire went forth from the Lord and consumed the two hundred and fifty men offering the incense." (Numbers 16:35)

Above it all said...

Anonymous, you have no clue to what "feces" you are flinging. You may quote what you call "great minds" all day but you are ignorant of the true meanings of what they say and in comparison what you speak of God and him "Ok'ing" a cut or cancer you show your true ignorance in understanding what God is.

God is neither your babysitter nor your keeper. God is your creator as he is to this universe (actually to some the great creator) bringing you into existence and let you live with free will to choose what path you want to live.

Your obvious anger is with the misunderstanding of Christianity and your denial of something larger than yourself.

If you wish to wallow with Satan and Lucifer you have been given the free will to do so, that was a gift from God, the same free will given to Lucifer.

So you see even those you choose as opponents of God are of God …

Curious said...

So you quote scripture, curious why did you chose the ones you did?

can you tell us? are you afraid?

is that why you choose Revelation,Leviticus,Numbers as the lessons to heathens, are you afraid deep down inside because you actually know your soul is damned?

Fred Brimstone said...

Good Grief make up your minds satanists, is you faith a hodgepodge of hedonistic pleasure principles plucked indiscriminately from Machiavelli and perhaps some existential ambiguities from Nietzsche thrown in for good measure?

So which is it flabby occultists, was Satanism forged 50 to 500 years ago or is it an ancient religion based on Pagan and Sumerian dogma that predates Christianity?

Some cohesion please, you all look like such pretentious fools LOL

My advise is to you dullards is to turn off History Channel International and take an actual accredited university history/religion course.

Anonymous said...

Whom therefore ye ignorantly worship, him declare I unto you” (Acts 17:23).

Paul goes on to refer to God as male, omnipotent, omniscient, and benevolent.

The Gnostics saw themselves as the incorruptible ones, a superior race of beings within humankind who could trace their ancient spiritual lineage to Seth. In the Gospel of the Egyptians, when Seth was emanated so were four luminaries, who together with Seth completed the fullness of the Pleroma. The work of the four luminaries was to oversee the four realms populated by the divine race of beings. Each of the luminaries had a characteristic or attribute called a consort. The consorts, in turn, had an attendant, accompanied by a counterpart expressing a divine quality.


Anonymous said...

I was just wandering how Anton LaVey came to the title of Dr LaVey. Its a term i use in discussions, and a term i have heard others use, but am unsure why....or rather, how he came to hold that title.



Anonymous said...

A doctorate is often awarded to someone who writes a thesis.

It is an honourary title bestowed upon him as a mark of respect within the Church of Satan for histhesis on Satanism - Tha Satanic Bible.


Above it all said...

“Anonymous” your information is flawed as are your beliefs. Quoting those whom you perceive intelligent and spitting regurgitated disinformation riddled with personal opinion adds nothing to your point.

It’s all been said and done by greater minds than yours(I suppose that’s why you continue to quote them instead of thinking for yourself)

Again, you quote from the bible and use Christian allegory to state what a HUGE Satanist you are . And that you're against anything of God but yet you worship one of his fallen angels and use bible quotes. If you think for a minute that you will upset or win any new followers you are dead wrong.

In fact you are actually working for God right now by showing us and the world what those like you think and how easy you swallow hook,line and sinker what is fed to you.

Wow, you're kind of stupid aren’t you Forrest?

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Bobnoxious said...

I am Vinz Clortho Keymaster of Gozer. Gozer the Traveller will come in one of the pre-chosen forms. During the rectification of the Vuldronaii the Traveller came as a very large and moving Torb.

Then of course in the third reconciliation of the last of
the Meketrex supplicants they chose a new form for him, that of a Sloar. Many Shubs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in
the depths of the Sloar that day I can tell you.

HS!(High School?)


Anonymous said...


LMAO!! excellent comeback

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