Issue 141 – Cycle Numbers of JFK Assassination / Lorraine Warren & Tony Spera Keep Milking 'The Conjuring'

By Kirby Robinson

TONIGHT ~ The Eye on the Paranormal Radio Show

Tales from the Modern-Day 'Prophets' on tonight's radio show. Tune in from 10 to 12:00 EST / 7 to 9:00 [PST] to listen to the show. Callers welcome! http://www.goddiscussion.net/2013/11/19/prophet-tales/

In this issue:

My God, they killed John F. Kennedy, Church Rescue DOA, and Lorraine Warren keeps milking The Conjuring.

My God, they Killed John F. Kennedy: the Future Missed You

I always say asking what if? is a waste of time. However, in the case of what would had been the impact on world history if President Kennedy had lived, what type of world would we be living in if he hadn't been assassinated 50 years ago? Think about this—there would be:

- No Vietnam War

- No Nixon in the White House thus no Watergate scandal to affect the American psyche.

- No 54,000 dead from Vietnam, families broken apart and none of our boys would had come back broken and damaged.

- No runaway inflation of the 70s. Also, no presidents Ford or Carter.

It would've been a much different world. Not perfect by any means…but different.

Nor should we look at JFK just like you or me. Yes, he fell short but he was a good man. It's interesting to take a look at his and his killers' life cycle numbers.

John F. Kennedy's life cycle was 7. DOB 5/29/1917. He was on the 1959 to 1965 cycle meaning he was on the low side of his cycle in November of 63.

Lee Harvey Oswald's life cycle was 5. DOB 10/18/1939. He was on his '59 to '64 cycle. He had begun what can be call the period of change in his life.

The day JFK was killed 11/22/1963 = 7 [JFK was a 7].

The day Jack Ruby shot and killed Oswald was 11/24/1963 = 9. Some call 9 the number of divine justice.

It's interesting to note that Ruby’s birthday was 3/25/1911, which makes his cycle a 4. He had just finished a cycle and was on his '63 to '67 cycle, turbulent is always the catch phrase for this stage. Ruby died on 1/3/1967, which equals 9, and it ends his cycle.

President Kennedy was pronounced dead at 1:00 pm.

Oswald was pronounced dead at 1:07 pm.

If you keep working the numbers of these two men, you'll find even more shocking ties found in the numbers.

Church Rescue DOA on National Geographic Channel

The former home of nature and historical programming is slowly going the route of all cable channels and embracing reality programs. Replacing the Christian-oriented Snake Salvation with its latest offering, Church Rescue, the show should be called Selling the Church Out. The three pastors on the show claim to be helping. What they're selling the churches should not be buying. When I was a child, the churches I attended were simple but nice. Having a well-kept church is certainly something that is needed. But when you start to package the message to attract the world and fill the pews, it becomes a path that will lead to selling out the message. Telling a preacher to limit your message to a certain number of hours so you can have two services, well, I doubt God looks at the clock as He pours out the Holy Spirit.

Additionally the pilot was filled with staged and scripted scenes, which leads us to say what Church Rescue is selling we aren't buying.

More Lorraine Warren & Tony Spera Highjinks

It seems that Lorraine Warren is determined to milk as much cash as she can from the film based on the fake Ed and Lorraine Warren files, along with a work of fanciful fiction by Andrea Perron: House of Light, House of Darkness.

Here is the information from our newest blogger Chris Baricko. Chris will be sharing Thursdays with Lisa Grace. Watch for his first blog on December 12.

OK so here is what many of you have been messaging me about wanting to know.

Myself, my wife & some of my team & friends went to the event called Night of the Conjuring with Lorraine Warren. It was $ 149.00 a person. It stated you get all you can eat buffet, Meet & greet with Lorraine, then watch The Conjuring, then Q&A. Here are the facts:

It was very unorganized when you arrived there was no one at the door to greet you let along show you were to sit. It was a free for all. You would figure when you bought your ticket you would be assigned a table. Not scrambling trying to find a seat with a plate of food in your hand.

Then people were in line to meet Lorraine & get photos taken with her. Well it did not last long. As people were still in line they were told to sit down and watch the movie. Many including myself thought that was very rude.

People wanted to get their books personalized after they bought them there. Some were told look inside she already signed them. REAL NICE.

Then it said there would be a Q&A after the movie. That lasted maybe 30 minutes and they ended it. Once again people were still wanting to meet & talk to Lorraine. Some people did not get the chance as not once but twice.

They had enough people at the table sitting with Lorraine who are suppose to be there to help. Yeah they did a great job of doing nothing but rushing everyone who paid out.

Lorraine is a very kind & nice woman and by in no means am I saying anything bad about her at all. But her staff or team was clueless as to how to run that event. Very poorly done. Very disrespectful to the crowd.

I have run events it's not that hard when you plan it all they had to was give the people what they paid for not rush them. How would I have done it. Easy.

Have people at the door greeting people & showing them were to sit

Show the movie during the meal put one screen at each end. Or play the movie as people were waiting to meet Lorraine who was sitting in the back anyway.

That would have left more time for the Q&A. in the end everyone would have left happy felling they got what they paid for. The messages I got from others say. "I could have bought the movie at Walmart for $15.99."

Dinner and a movie was something tried by movie theaters back in the 80s and 90s -- without success. If Lorraine were psychic, she would have known that.

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Medical Advice from the Dalai Lama's Doctor

By Jen Christensen, CNN
December 5, 2012

Atlanta (CNN) -- A young girl bravely stood to ask the Dalai Lama's doctor a question, and he gave her an unusual answer.

Dr. Tsewang Tamdin, a world-renowned expert in Tibetan medicine, visited Emory University in Atlanta on Monday as part of his effort to reach more American medical practitioners. He wants to develop collaborative projects between the Tibetan medicine system, which is more than 2,500 years old, and Western medicine.

The little girl told Tamdin she suffered from asthma. She wanted to know if there was anything in Tibetan medicine that could help her get better.

Tamdin, who spoke through a translator for the hour long lecture, immediately switched to English. In a gentle, almost too-soft tone, he explained what might help.

Inhalers doctors prescribe for asthmatics works well, he said, and told her to continue using one if she does already. The inhaler, though, treats the symptoms only. Tibetan medical practice, he explained, ultimately aims to get to the root cause of the problem.

"While others might consider the holistic practice of Tibetan medicine 'alternative medicine' or a kind of side practice, I would like for others outside of our system to consider the Tibetan healing system full-fledged healing," Tamdin said. "Tibetan medical knowledge has tremendous potential to add to modern medicine."

Dr. Tsewang Tamdin
Tibetan practice teaches that people get sick when a person's physical, psychological and spiritual well-being are out of balance.

To restore balance, Tamdin recommended diet and exercise changes for the girl. He encouraged her to get proper rest and to get exercise that encouraged deep breathing, such as skipping or cycling.

He also suggested eating three or four white raisins a day. There is a property in the fruit that helps breathing, he said. But perhaps the biggest sacrifice for a child was his advice to avoid cold foods -- particularly, he said, ice cream.

Another patient who came to him with asthma symptoms would get a completely different diagnosis, Tamdin said. Each patient's disease is treated differently from the next. That's in large part because traditional Tibetan medicine is grounded in Buddhist philosophy. In his training to become a physician, Tamdin also studied Buddhist tradition and astrology.

American and Tibetan doctors have some practices in common. If Tamdin were to have a longer consultation with the girl, he said he would perform familiar diagnostic tests. He would examine her urine sample and take her pulse, but he also would ask questions that would be the more familiar terrain of a psychologist. He tries to find out if a person is angry or anxious or if someone is becoming too self-centered.

The Dalai Lama
"Tibetans believe in our interconnectedness," said Geshe Lobsang Negi, a former monk who is now director of the Emory-Tibet partnership. "When we lose that perspective -- that we are a kind of little speck that is infinitely connected with the rest of the world -- when we see ourselves as the solid, fixed, all-important center of the universe, we call that ignorance, and that means we are vulnerable to illness."

This whole person approach to Tibetan medicine is being analyzed by a number of research studies in the United States. An NIH-funded study is examining the impact that compassion meditation can have on alleviating depression.

Compassion meditation is a Tibetan Buddhist mind training that asks a person to examine why they feel a certain way about someone and then to develop feelings of love and empathy for a number of people that will grow with more practice to include even people they normally dislike.

Studies have shown the medical effectiveness of meditation overall. A 2003 study of mindfulness-based meditation showed enhanced antibody production after someone receives a flu vaccine. Another study from that same year found cancer patients who were trained in mindfulness-based stress reduction showed a boost in their immune system.

And a study this year from Carnegie Mellon University showed mindfulness-based meditation has a far-reaching influence on both psychological and physical health. Mindfulness means being present and in the moment, and observing in a nonjudgmental way.

Negi's 2008 study of compassion meditation showed a reduction in stress-induced immune and behavioral responses. Several other studies under way are looking at the impact of Tibetan treatments on certain viral illnesses and on hepatitis.

Tamdin believes ignorance is at the root cause of all illness.

"If you think about this, it makes sense," Negi said. "For instance, if you believe you are the center of the universe and someone has something you want, you may become jealous and believe you deserve what that person has."

"You may become so jealous," he added, "you don't sleep at night and you will be stressed. Medical tests have shown there is a biochemical change in your body created by a release of a stress hormone. In Tibetan medicine, it is important to recognize the role the mind can play on our own physical well-being."

Tamdin said that modern medicine treats symptoms, but said a patient will never get better if they fail to attend to psychological issues.

"If one does not gain this understanding of selflessness, they won't be able to overcome their ignorance," he said. "One way to look at it is to watch the bird and its shadow. It may fly and fly high into the sky, but it continues to leave a shadow on the surface of Earth. As long as you have ignorance within you -- even though you are enjoying good health -- there is always a shadow of sickness falling upon you. From this ignorance arises three mental poisons: attachment, hatred and delusion." All those will affect energy, he said.

In addition to actual medicine and dietary changes, a Tibetan doctor may also prescribe the patient practice more kindness and compassion toward others -- or that they practice more compassion meditation.

Western medicine is reluctant to accept the Tibetan medical idea that some unexplained illnesses may ultimately be caused by someone's karma or even by evil spirits. The language Tibetan doctors use to suggest that good health is based on the balance of bile, phlegm and wind may seem a little too foreign to modern medicine practitioners.

But the holistic approach to a patient's health -- treatments that involve diet, behavior, prescription of medicine and contemplative practices -- may continue to appeal to physicians after they see demonstrated proof that these kind of therapies work.

"The Tibetan tradition has evolved over 2,500 years," Negi said. "It has a rich tradition that has helped the health of people for many many years.

"His holiness the Dalai Lama was the first to say that these things we believe in should be subjected to scientific tools so we could better understand the human condition overall and help us to better deal with the situation of our own well-being."

Babylon the Harlot, Part 2

Continued from Babylon the Harlot, Part 1

The Bride of Christ is called a city, and that is the portion of the church which has not compromised. The other (opposite) side of that is the harlot. It is also called a city but is evil because of compromise. This is not only the apostate church in Rome, but the apostate in many other churches, as well. Again, the waters let us know that this apostate church is throughout the masses of people.

17:2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.

We see here, that this universal apostasy (unfaithfulness to God) does not affect just one class of people. This unfaithfulness is from the very rich and powerful (kings) to the very poor.

The same way a drunken person naturally has no earthly idea what he is doing, this apostate group is so carried away with the world that they, too, do not realize the terribleness of what they are doing. God will judge this idolatrous church. Judgment begins at the house of God.

17:3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.

This "wilderness" here, I believe, means the world. This "scarlet coloured beast" shows evil world power.

Since this woman sits upon this beast, it means that her power comes from this evil beast in Revelation 18 verse 2, Babylon the Great as It supports her. This woman, it appears, has decided to trust the powers of this world over God's power.

Seven denotes spiritually complete, ten denotes world government, and horns denote power.

You can easily see, since she is on top of this thing, she guides it, but receives her support from the beast. The word "scarlet" can be very good or very evil. In this case, it is very evil. This great evil (blasphemy) that this woman (church) has committed is spiritual adultery (the watering down or changing of the Word).

17:4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:

The elegant clothing and jewelry of the woman show her wealth and attractiveness, but her activities are filthy and abominable to God. Her mystery name is Babylon the Great verse 5. Ancient Babylon is a type or prefigure of this future Babylon. Babylon the City The harlot will do what literal Babylon did in the past:

(1) Oppress God's people, and

(2) Propagate a false religious system. Much of the world's idolatry can be traced back to historical Babylon (Gen. 11:1-9), including the mother-child cult of Semiramis -Tammuz (Jer. 44:16-19; Ezek. 8:9, 14), which entered other cultures as Ashtaroth - Baal, Aphrodite-Eros, Venus-Cupid, and even Madonna-Child.

Semiramis, who was both Nimrod's wife and mother, was worshiped as the "mother of god" and a "fertility goddess" because she had to be extremely fertile to give birth to all the pagan incarnate gods that represented Nimrod.

Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth.

The color scheme of this one world religion as defined in Rev. 17 v.4 is most revealing: "The woman was dressed in purple and scarlet." If you are familiar with pictures of the Vatican Council as published in national magazines, you will have observed that the bishops and cardinals wore purple and scarlet robes.

Revelations 17:5 And upon her forehead [was] a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

Just as God marked the 144,000 with the name of the Father, and just as the bride of Christ is marked with the name of Christ, we see here this group marked on the forehead. This name alone makes you know how evil and worldly this church is.

This worldly part of the church, though nominally Christian, is yet more faithful to the world than to God. Notice here, that the church that pretends to be Christian and is not, does more to cause harm than those worldly people who claim to be lost. The worldly church always persecutes the faithful church. This evil in the church is an abomination to God. It is a mystery how this could happen in the church.

As the fountainhead of idolatry, Babylon the harlot is the MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH; the harlot has killed many of God's saints and Christian martyrs throughout the ages, and will do so again during the Tribulation period.

17:6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.

The faithless part of the church is guilty of the blood of the saints. In Matthew 12:20 we read that Jesus says "He that is not with me is against me". This watered down church is actually causing great problems for those who are sold out to God. We do know that Rome had a great deal to do with the death of the martyrs and even had a hand in crucifying Jesus.

Of course, the Jews (church) of that day had even more to do with the crucifixion of Jesus. However, the most blame for His death has to be placed on each of us. Sin placed Jesus on the cross. He went to the cross to crucify sin. His sacrifice stopped us from being a servant to sin.

The wonder of it all is, that with the Bible as their guide, how could these people get so far away from God and still occupy a pew? The answer is quite simple. They never read or study their Bible themselves. They allow someone else to read it and tell them what it is saying.

I truly believe that much of the problem lies at the shepherd's feet. So many preachers are overlooking the need for the spiritual growth of their people. In the 34th chapter of Ezekiel, it says God will take the sheep away from the shepherds that do not care for them. Shepherds BEWARE! We are not to be as concerned with "our" needs as we are with the needs of "our people".

We see from the last few scriptures above that this is probably speaking of Rome and the Catholic Church, who have brought the compromise. Even more than that, it is speaking to individuals in all churches who have compromised themselves.

"Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away." 2 Timothy 3 verse 5. A person claiming to be a Christian on the outside, but who is not on the inside. It's so easy to point to someone else, but in so doing we should examine ourselves as well.

17:7 And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.

Next week - Part 3

Written by Jennifer Auld

Demonic Video Games Influence

By Evangelist Stephen Piersall, God’s Preservation Ministry, sfprs.org/   

You can really relate to your own age when you can remember Intellivision, Atari 2600, Commodore computers, and 1981 when Donkey Kong hit the arcades. What in the world, did we do as kids before that? We played outside; Bike riding (had a Varoom motor, and streamers), Hula Hoops, Croquet, ball sports, Tonka toys, Tag, Hide & Seek, Kick the Can, Hop Scotch, tree climbing, etc. SIGH!!!

As kids, we went outside to play after doing your homework “first.” We relied on our imaginations and limitless energy to be active. Mom said, “You kids go outside and play!” We were gone until we heard our name to come home for supper then back outside again until the street lights came on. SIGH!!!

With regular visits with our grandchildren, we started to see a trend and nipped it in the bud real quick. They would start to argue as we approach our apartment on who gets the laptop, Kindle, and putting the TV on Disney or some dumb sponge with other weird-looking characters. We could have pizzas delivered every hour, and we could go away for the weekend and they would not know it. I am one of those “bad” grandfathers, when I take the two pugs out the kids come with me, and funny how I find it possible to find the long way around the neighborhood. Hey! We have to find time to get on our own electronic devices too LOL!

Keep in mind this blog is not just toward your children, but for you, adults too. After finances, the #2 items for arguments in marriages are the fact that at least one is now home from work rooted on the couch with energy drinks, wearing headphones talking to their friends they are playing video games with. It does not work at our house, as when yours truly am on the computer playing some music, or online training course, wife Karen’s voice is loud enough that I get the hint if I sit here too long. LOL

Video games can easily cause people of all ages to become fixated to the point of obsession. That and the content of many are the two primary dangers. Some say it is just the times we live in, but when you factor in the devil’s motives in finding ways to keep us away from God. The combining of culture and technology we see is making it easier for him to win his battles. No doubt, that much of the content in these games is diabolically disposed. That is certainly true for all other media like the Internet, movies, and TV.

Video games are highly interactive, and many are about killings, zombies, robbery, high-speed chases away from law enforcement, etc. The greater engaging the game, the further deeply we are drawn. We might understand this is just a game, and in the reality of life is meaningless. What about the many who do not recognize that fact? It can begin to affect our behavior, and it starts to control us, and becomes an addiction. Whatever in life comes our way where we waste away time, energy, focus, and emotions it dominates us and everything else, and dare say becomes “cult” like or very close to "worshiping." 

God gave us Free Will, and every Christian should know that life is full of trials and tribulations, and we are accountable for our choices in life. While we can agree, the content in some of these games is troubling; the obsessive behavior they are prone to generate is even more of a danger. If anything else besides Jesus Christ comes to have the top place in our life, in our hearts, that is where we run into trouble. Once we genuinely put Jesus Christ, first in our lives everything else that raises itself up against the truth of the Word of God, and our spiritual growth increases, evil is defeated. These choices have to come from inside, and those who take that road all the way to the end are few (Matt.7:14). However, if we are only willing to have just a little faith, small as a grain of sand or a mustard seed, our merciful God will be there to help us with every forward step we choose to take. 

Researchers have been able to link tempestuous criminals and bloodthirsty video games, which in turn these studies have shown that those young people to get into trouble at school and likely to bully other students are also most likely to play even more violent video games.

We always need to be careful what we are letting into our brains, and need to be especially wary when participating in activities that cause us to act contrary to God's principles. God has saved us and called us to a holy life (2 Timothy 1:9). Let us; therefore, out of love for God and gratefulness for Christ's saving work, follow the wise words of Paul:

 “Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.”

How Serious is the Belief in Trapped Spirits?

By Reverend Mark Hunnemann    

My interest in the theological issue of spiritism accelerated like a rocket when I realized the titanic With the American spiritual landscape littered with the rubbish of all manner of crazy ideas and beliefs, it has the dubious distinction of being the arch-heterodox belief of the day…that is my opinion and I am prepared to defend that sentiment.

The first argument is simple but profound: fifty percent of Americans now believe in trapped spirits. HALF—ONE OUT OF EVERY TWO!—OF THE POPULATION HAS EMBRACED THIS ERROR…HIGHER WITH THE YOUNGER CROWD…AND GROWING FAST EVERY DAY.  No need to drone on here, but what other specific belief error comes anywhere near that quantity of people? Number of people affected should certainly be considered when determining if an issue merits being called a crucial issue, should it not?  Spiritism is a crucial issue which must be passionately addressed because more people have embraced this erroneous belief than any other heterodox belief.

Certainly one can believe in ghosts and still be saved, because Scripture clearly teaches justification by faith alone (Rom. 4; 5:1) However, the ability to discern the relative importance of theological/spiritual beliefs is vital for effective Christian life and ministry. The relative importance of certain issues/beliefs can fall within four categories. 1. Absolutes define the core beliefs of the Christian faith…what one must believe to be saved (the belief in absolute truth is a distinct issue); 2. Convictions, while not core beliefs, usually have significant impact on the health and effectiveness of the church and individuals; 3. Opinions, are less clear issues and are usually not worthy of dividing over; 4. Questions are issues which are currently unsettled. These criteria, and the seven below, are designed to help sort through the myriad of issues we face by categorizing them into four distinct levels of seriousness…hope they will help you in the future with thinking through the significance of other issues as well.

Where an issue falls within these categories should be determined by weighing the cumulative force of at least seven considerations: 1. Biblical clarity; 2. Relevance to the character of God; 3. Relevance to the essence of the gospel; 4. Biblical frequency and significance (how often in Scripture it is taught and what weight Scripture places upon it); 5. Effect on other doctrines; 6. Consensus among Christians (past and present); 7. Effect on personal and church life…all the categories should be considered collectively in determining how important an issue is to the Christian faith. The ability to rightly discern the difference between core doctrines and legitimately disputable matters will keep the church from either compromising important truth or needlessly dividing over peripheral issues. (pg. 2502 ESV Study Bible, emp. added)

In a sense, the main goal of my book is to provide the cumulative evidence (mentioned above and other) to argue that the issue of trapped spirits lies within the realm of convictions—see above for distinctiveness of four categories of issues…#2. While a biblically accurate belief regarding spiritism is not a core/absolute issue (not necessary for salvation…belief in the deity of Christ is an example of a belief that is a core issue), it is an exceedingly important conviction or teaching of the bible. Belief in ghosts, and attempting communication with them, can do serious damage to the church and to an individual’s spirituality. I should hasten to add, it IS doing serious damage right now. Let us look at the relative importance the bible gives to this issue, and the ramifications for the spiritual and emotional health of people by looking at these seven points.

1. Biblical clarity—using accepted principles of hermeneutics, Deuteronomy 18:9-14 and Leviticus 20:6-8, 27 are they key texts relative to communication with the dead (this is a distinct issue which is beyond the scope of this newsletter, but I devoted an entire article on this), and they are clear and explicit regarding the exceptional wickedness of spiritism. God as Judge used Israel as executioner of the Canaanites due to the latter’s occult practices which included spiritism. The land had become so defiled by this and other occult practices that it was vomiting them out. As I mentioned, using sound interpretive principles, it is abundantly clear that these texts have priority over all other “ghost” related texts. Then, when we look at these texts, we see that they are transgenerational in their authority. As far as biblical clarity, these texts are as clear as clear can get. There should be no debate if you under Christ’s Lordship. Remember that Jesus Himself quoted from Deut. three times when countering Satan’s climactic temptations in the wilderness.

2. Relevance to the character of God—the notion of ghosts casts a shadow over God’s omnipotence, and goodness (actually ALL the attributes of God are frontally assaulted by this notion)…what kind of God would leave deceased babies here as spirit babies? That “God” would be Satan-like. Spritism implies that the Lord is not sovereign over His creation—a godlette or McGod. “They died so quickly their souls got stuck here.” Are we to believe that manner of death can snatch believers out of God’s hands? God forbid! I could go on and on here…

3. Relevance on the essence of the gospel—the perfection of the Person and work of Christ is seriously undermined and impugned if we believe that some people get trapped when they die. What are we saved from, if death is NOT a doorway to heaven?  A McSalvation at best. While it does not utterly ruin the atonement, as denial of the deity of Christ does, it comes perilously close to it. Was Jesus’s salvation perfectly efficacious or not? Is Jesus the Son of Man, the conquering Warrior over evil and death, or not? Is it good news to believe that God’s blood was shed, only to wake up in the front porch to hell?

4. Frequency and weight—while spiritism is not mentioned often in the bible, where it is mentioned, the utmost weight or gravity is placed upon this issue (see 1 above).

5. Effect on other doctrines—pull out a book on bible doctrine and you will see how EVERY doctrine is undermined by the notion of people getting trapped here. For example, the biblical doctrine of hope is hopelessly destroyed by this belief. Hope is certainty regarding our future glory—how can one enjoy this basic fruit of the atonement when the fearful prospect of possibly being trapped here is hanging over our heads? Hope is not only an important biblical doctrine, but it is also crucial for a healthy emotional state. Another example is the believers union with Christ—we are in Christ, and indissolubly united with the life, death, resurrection, and ascension of Jesus. We are already in heaven with Jesus, in a very real sense (Col.3:3). Our union with Jesus is unbreakable, and it is the hub from which all other spiritual blessings flow. What does it say about that union, if we can be separated from Christ indefinitely in a paranormal gutter-world…Satan’s home turf? The same corrosive effects occur to many other biblical doctrines. Please check it out for yourself….it may cast a whole new light on this discussion.

6. The consensus of Christians (past and present)—from the early church fathers who railed against the same pagan Gnosticism as we do today, up until today, the monolithic consensus of the doctors of the church has been that death ushers everyone immediately into their eternal destiny. I do not know of a single judicious theologian, in 2,000 years of church history, who has believed in ghosts—death has always been seen as certain entry into either eternal life or eternal death. Are we so foolish to ignore their collective wisdom?

7. Effect on personal and church life—how can you live with joy inexpressible when you are speaking to demons, and are being demonically oppressed?  Because the spirit realm is the God ordained temporary home of most of the fallen angels (rest already in hell), then when people summon spirits they immediately find themselves playing in Satan’s sandbox…and they are trespassing, which gives the demonic legal right to attach and attack. Since the notion of ghosts is so hostile to all that we call holy, then belief/speaking to the dead seriously undermines the stability of a Christian’s spiritual foundation—like a three legged table, it would not take much a “bump” to cause them to crash. As I mentioned, this belief is extremely corrosive to all it comes in contact with—other orthodox beliefs held side-by-side with it, will tend to be affected by it, and not vice versa. Kind of like when a Christian marries a non-Christian, the latter tends to pull the Christian down…having a corrosive effect on their spirituality.

How to Treat Supernatural Creatures

By Lisa Grace

With the proliferation of ghost and demon hunters, and professional psychics who conjure (attract or communicate) with supernatural beings (and yes, many mediums are fakes) one of the issues seldom addressed is how we should be treating these angels/demons, etc.

The Holy Scriptures say:

We are not to pray to angels or demons. (Col 2:18)

It is best not to call on them as this can fall into the category of making them your god. Also, you run the risk of having one attach to you, in which case they may torment you or make your life more difficult. If you are having feelings of despair or depression, suicidal thoughts, after trying to communicate with spirits or going to a place known to be inhabited by them, you may want to find a Bible believing exorcist, who follows the rules of the Bible to drive them out. If you are not a believer, the solution will not be permanent though.

We are to treat even fallen angels and demons with respect, and rebuke them only in the LORD's name. (Jude 1:8 - 10)

Why?

Jesus is above the angels. (Hebrews 1:4, Hebrews 2:7 - 10)

Jesus (Yeshua) has authority above the angels. We can only drive them out in His name. Not all are strong enough in belief or faith or His authority to drive them out. Some can only be gotten ridden of through prayer and fasting. (Matthew 17:14 - 21; Mark:17 - 29; Acts 19:11 - 17)

Do not call the devils' names, but treat them with respect, find someone to drive them out in Jesus' authority. Do not call on angels or demons, you're playing with fire.

I hope shows and/or pastors that taunt or treat these creatures with dis-respect, will stop. It is to their detriment and not Biblical.

Issue 140 – The Holy Grail is a Living Person!

By Kirby Robinson

TONIGHT ~ The Eye on the Paranormal Radio Show

More Bad Psychics & Their Absurdities Exposed! on tonight's radio show. Tune in from 10 to 12:00 EST / 7 to 9:00 [PST] to listen to the show. Callers welcome!

http://www.goddiscussion.net/2013/11/10/more-bad-psychics-and-their-absurdities-exposed-wednesday-november-13-2013/

In this week's issue, we learn that the Holy Grail is a living person! New show Church Rescue means more bad reality TV, and the Worst Paranormal Awards ever …

The Holy Grail & Last Descendant of Jesus Christ is the Best Psychic Ever!

If you've read my blogs and heard my show you know about my disdain for psychics, especially those who make overblown claims.

The field isn't regulated by anyone. Claims go unchecked, and the public is cheated out of their money and cheated out of the truth.

I often visit the website Doubtful News. http://doubtfulnews.com

I may not agree with their stance on demons and exorcisms. But we can respectfully disagree on certain matters. However, I agree with their efforts to expose false psychic claims. A long running story concerns the Marks trial. Ms. Marks and her gypsy clan members had milked clients out of $25 million over several years. They were finally caught, charged, put on trail and found guilty. While most of the major news outlets backed out of the story, Doubtful News didn't and gave it the coverage it deserved.

But what they didn't see coming was this:

http://doubtfulnews.com/2013/11/not-only-a-questionable-claim-but-an-absurd-one-our-dmca-complaint/

The complaint was filed by a person known as Psychic Medium Rose

Her website is one of those old-fashioned scrolling pages that hasn't changed much since 2006. It has lots of claims, statements, and bizarre theories and terms on it. Some will find it disturbing; others will laugh at it. Here's the link: http://www.psychicrose.com/

We found this quote quite interesting:

"Certified & Tested by the Grand Master Hermit.

of The Tarot Association. Known all over the world."

We checked into the claims of copyright and found this information in public records

http://www.trademarkia.com/psychic-rose-78475252.html

Naturally, we have some questions!

1 How can someone be open to do readings 24/7/365? When a customer pays the fee, do they really get psychic medium Rose on the phone 24 hours a day?

2 If a person is the Holy Grail [does that make me the holy moley?]! Wouldn't it be a good idea for the media and the church to recognize her? Maybe set her up in her own apartment in the Vatican? Give her lots of news coverage?

3 Where is the proof that this person is from Jesus' bloodline? The Da Vinci Code is a novel. Amazon labels it as contemporary fiction, along with mystery, thriller and suspense. So, this book isn't nonfiction. If psychic medium Rose has actual evidence of her proud lineage, she needs to produce it.

4 Who determined that psychic medium Rose is the best psychic in the world?

This site just leaves me shaking my head. Will this type of stuff ever end?

Haunted Entertainment Awards ~ Only the Desperate & Delusional Need Apply

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Haunted-Entertainment-Awards-2014/226822014109621

What is the point of an award for those in the paranormal field? Do you have a ghost of a chance of winning? Awards in the paranormal field are like grains of sand and are worth about as much. I stumbled onto this site and discovered some of the many categories that you can vote for.

- Favorite demonologist! Some featured on this list I used to send clients to but will never again do that.

- Favorite Male Investigator [sexist as no female investigator category is mentioned]

- Most influential Paranormal Investigator [kidding, right?]

- Favorite Ghost Hunting Location

- Favorite Horror/Paranormal Model

- Favorite Psychic-Medium

- Favorite Ghost Hunting Tool Maker [how 'bout we delete the last word in this category and declare it all a tie!]

We noticed that Shannon Sylvia was listed in the Favorite Horror/Paranormal Model category. I contacted her and she claimed they did contact her about inclusion but she never responded and was never informed of this. Haunted Entertainment, the group behind this silliness is a small talent agency trying to break into the entertainment world.

Shannon asked to have her name removed from the group, and rightfully so. Those featured resemble Sunset Blvd. strippers. One model poses with a bottle of Jack Daniels—ghost hunters drinking spirits end up seeing 'em?  

Here's a list of nominations they should have:

1 Demonologist whose pants fall down in every investigation

2 Radio show host who lies the most

3 Paranormal investigator's best sex performance with a client

I think the above three categories would spice up something that is both boring and downright silly.

'Church Rescue' -- Sending an SOS to God

National Geographic Channel got a good response for its Snake Salvation show. Oxygen network is doing well with L.A. Preachers. Now, National Geographic Channel is coming back with Church Rescue. The program is in the pattern of Fox's Kitchen Nightmares or Food Network's Restaurant Impossible or Spike's Bar Rescue. A team of three pastors goes into a church each week to see why it's not doing well. A new coat of paint, new flooring, and a new message is  expected to be spoken about each week.

Did we ever see such things in bible times? What's next for Christian reality TV?

~ Let's All Hang from the Cross!

~ So You Think You're Paul…or Saul?

~ Can You Beat My Weekly Collections?

~ Late for Church – How Fast Can You Drive?

The church lived for 2,500 or so years without TV it can live 2,500 more without it.

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