Wednesday, September 5, 2012

Issue 86 Christians Aren't Welcome In the Paranormal Community


 By Kirby Robinson


If you’re a skeptic, able to think, and a Christian you're no longer welcome in the paranormal community.

I'm often amazed at how God works in the shadows putting together the pieces of the puzzle of the path that He has me on. I often say to Him, I've done this enough, it's time to find someone wiser, smarter, younger, and more articulate than this old country hick. But it seems that He hasn't found anyone with those qualifications and keeps calling this old workhouse. His Son went up on the cross for my soul. He had nails driven into his hands and feet to shed the blood so that we can have victory over not only death, but the devil, illness and all manners of evil. He also gave us a Word that was true yesterday, today and for the dark years ahead.

I've wondered why for several weeks my angels have been close by. [They aren't spirit guides. When they come to me they don't speak of how important they are, nor do they ever bring up anything other than the glory of our Lord unless it is to give me a word from the Bible or a message of warning]. Additionally, memories of life in the new age that I'd put away so many years ago kept coming back fresh as ever. As did books concerning the false new age Christ and the empty gospel of the new age church that's sold out the message of salvation, redemption and the never ending or never changing Word of GOD.

 So what took place during Friday night's interview on Paranormal Journal didn't come as a big surprise. And, right after the show, I was sent this message:

"sorry that happened with your interview Kirby. Personally, I think it was a lack of professionalism on the part of the host's that conducted the interview. Seems they ( personally ? ) knew each caller that was spewing verbal venom and then when it came time to say good-bye, sounded overly sweet and at least one of the caller's said, I'll talk with you tomorrow. Couldn't help but notice that the dialog sounded almost the same, like they were feeding off each other's comments. To me, it sounded like a planned deal...like I said, the show wasn't conducted in a  professional manner. Host's should have intervened when the callers start to become adversarial and rude. Just my opinion...but I was pleased with the way you kept your cool and held your ground Kirby."

We've been given information concerning ties of the callers to some of the well know para- celebs and groups we have pointed out in the past with concerns of credibility.

Two of the most troubling callers were:

1 The lady who stated that the death of my child was no big thing because her child had been ten years old when he died; and mine, well it was never born, so it was no big issue. Just get over it. Is not all life precious? That includes an unborn baby that has a heartbeat, feelings and a functioning brain. So to take her argument [and we do feel sorry for her loss if she does not feel for mine] we also have to wonder if she would say her suffering is greater than a parent whose child was 21when they died? You had him for 21 years, I only had mine for ten, so let me stand in the spotlight of my suffering. Does this sound healthy emotionally or spiritually--holding onto suffering like that? We've found out the person goes by the name Lee Anna and is a para-celeb groupie. She even appeared on Darkness Dave's radio show. We would hope she informs clients that some of the spirits of the dead are more and less important, and next time I see and speak to Victoria, my dead child that Lee Anna says is not that important. Also, we are concerned about her claims about her dead child, apparently reports range in age from 10 to 12…

2 The other is the woman that claims that the Hindu religion only has one GOD. This shows a lack of wisdom and knowledge that runs rampant within the paranormal field. You don't get a solid foundation in matters of theology just from listening to Coast to Coast radio, Darkness at the Edge of Town, and attending lectures at paranormal conferences. Guess it's time to teach how many GODS are in the Hindu religion




Here is more proof [they always come back and say that site isn't right].



It was also implied by a caller that I didn't respect other people's religions. This is very odd, as I'm friends with Buddhists, Christians, Jews, Hindus, Native Americans and even Atheists. If you notice during the show I stated if a person desired to walk a particular path they can but that path was not mine. And I would defend their right to do so. But you always see that Christians are asked to rape their faith to allow others to practice theirs.


Christ teaches that there is one path unto his Father and that is through Him. If you don't accept him in your heart and speak of Him with your tongue, He won't pass you on to His Father—and we can't enter heaven. This is all going on while demons and sometimes the devil himself stands in the court of heaven pointing out our errors to GOD.

That is pretty black and white. For us, that is the only path that will work. If we accept that by works or some other path will get you into heaven, that makes us betray our faith.

My spirituality teaches my GOD is supreme. Sorry about that, if you follow a GOD outside of the GOD who created all this and gave up His Son for us. If you want to follow a different GOD -- fine it is your choice. But again, Christians are asked to bring their GOD and make him just one of the members of the GOD Crew.


3 I was attacked by one caller as seeking fame for the book I'm working on claiming that I'm profiting off the suffering of others. Let me ask this…aren't the producers of Ghost Adventures profiting off the family's suffering? Have they donated money made from the show's airing? Will they donate any money from the sale of the DVD to charity? If so, which charity? How much have they donated? Can we see any records from the producers?

And let me say this about Ghost Adventures.

1 It's odd that in every single investigation something happens.

2 Where is the proof that they are ever locked down for the entire night? One site had a report from a law officer state he saw the team calmly walk out of the building they were locked down in so they could take a break, only to return later on.

3 Have they ever shown their footage of being demonically attacked to theologians who are expert in the subject of demons? Theologians have no ties to the paranormal community or financial interest in the spreading of false teachings to get their take on whether it's real or not.

4 I should come out and say I personally feel the show Ghost Adventures is fake. And just like that other fake para-reality show, Paranormal State, sometimes they stumbled onto real cases. This was seen in the Paranormal State episode with Kelli Ryan. They didn't really know how to deal with it and properly present it to the public.

I would love to go on one of their investigations with my own people to record what really goes on. Others who doubt the show and made the same request haven't received a response, because much of what goes on is faked.

NEXT WEEK – We go into the chatroom and do what we do so well – expose darkness to the light. I'm not ashamed to be a skeptic and free thinker. I have the courage of my convictions because if I don't then I have no courage or convictions.


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9 comments:

Cassiel said...

Excellent report and you are defiantly a nice and level headed man Kirby, I love the way you present yourself and what you're talking about.

King Krimson said...

Those old crones that called into the show specifically to attack you were so typical with their attempt to distort the real issues into one that insinuates you are insensitive all of those whom have lost children by daring to question an especially poor taste episode of "Ghost Adventures".

I personally don't believe there was a ghost or a demon involved because I firmly believe EVERYTHING on "Ghost Adventures" is laughably fake or sensationalized to the point of making it easy for the feeble, drooling idiots that watch it accept each and every silly, suggested EVP and every grainy shadow on some blurry IR video as irrefutable evidence of supernatural activity.

I also wonder how much the "GAC Guys" (as one particularly imbecilic caller referred to them) made off of that episode? Exactly how much went to charity from the sales generated from that ridiculous Ghost Detector gadget they promoted on that installment of Television For Idiots?

Let's not forget the "GAC guys" mocked the brutal slaying of 6 children by making all sorts of goofy poses with axes for several photos at the Villisca Murder house....very touching.

-Krim

Anonymous said...

Things are reversed, end of times is happening right in front of us; good (Christianity and one God) is evil and evil (Godless/pagan) is good. Christianity is bashed in almost every forum at present. They cant have "gifts" or make contact with Aunt Sally if they are Christians, we are diametrically opposed. Psychics and demonologists, money from useless gadgets sold to the unknowing and gullible (that's the target audience in the first place) There are so many more weak minds than the strong. remember Ghost Hunters target audience, they were the lower working class supported by the blue collar "plumber" routine, J&G get a call from headquarters and just as they are wiping down the seat for you off they go to bust-up some ghosts. Who wishes they had investments in Radio Shack before that hit? (me too) bottom line is Christianity is just not jiving with ghosts and para-cons,a bone thrown to some attention starved old woman and instantly she is a creditable "writer" bumping elbows with semi-almost-barely-paranormal celebs.

Isaiah 5:20
Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

How horrible it will be for those who think they are wise and consider themselves to be clever.

Isaiah 5:24
Therefore as the fire devoureth the stubble, and the flame consumeth the chaff, so their root shall be as rottenness, and their blossom shall go up as dust: because they have cast away the law of the LORD of hosts, and despised the word of the Holy One of Israel.

think about the last one, who denied Jerusalem as being the capital of Israel?

Could it be, Satan?

Tammy Alenduff said...

Interesting Anonymous....

I know many devout Christians that do believe in the paranormal very much. My hubby and in-laws do. These people have experienced something personally that have left no doubt in their minds.

My in-laws also believe in psychics, while the hubby says it's not right and they are doing the devils work.

However, I know they (mainly the hubby) think that I am without a doubt going to hell because I am a Pagan. I live in the Baptist Bible Belt also, and see much of that same type of thinking on a daily basis. Thank goodness though that not all are that way.

My favorite saying is, we'll wait until we pass from this life to the next to see who is going to 'heaven'. Those that deeply believed, yet were not tolerant to other's religious belief's, or those that had different religious belief's, but were tolerant of others paths.

If anyone has never heard of Bishop John Shelby Spong, then I encourage you read some of the things he has written. I wish more Christians were like him.

And also, read some of the books that Joyce and River Higgenbotham have written. One book in particular that I have liked is ChristoPaganism: An Inclusive Path. It delves into both the history of both Paganism and Christianity, and tells about how much they are similar.

And a loss of a child, is a loss of child. It does not matter whether the child had been born yet or not.

Ghost Adventures is the American version of the one show that was done in England, can't think of the name of it right now. One has a screaming girl and the other a bunch of screaming 'men'. I've been is some pretty creepy places, with others on a team, and none of us screamed - and we were all females. I just don't get into those shows anymore. They are far from entertaining to me. I'd just as soon watch an old movie on TCM.

Deliverance Ministry, Central NY said...

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Kirby you are right on target re: Christianity in today's world. The New Age movement under Satan's throne is thriving. Even Christians are falling prey to ghost (demon) hunters, psychics, earth bound spirits, claiming they have lived in past lives, etc. Satan is the MASTER of disguise and we have a Supernatural Warfare in full throttle. Being in the Deliverance Ministry it just amazes me on how many Christians are falling to all the world view of the New Age. We need to be starting our day in prayer, reading our Bible, and walking the Christian walk. Just going to Church on Sunday's is NEVER enough. The Church is God's Bride and we must respect all religions and denominations, even though we don't believe in many things about them. We are to be obedient and loving, and most Demonic Oppression can be resolved by praying to God and asking the Holy Spirit to reveal your particular sins and then ask forgiveness and repent. It's time for America to Bless God!

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Tammy Alenduff said...

It seems to me you say one thing, but don't truly believe it.

You say "Being in the Deliverance Ministry it just amazes me on how many Christians are falling to all the world view of the New Age."

Then say "The Church is God's Bride and we must respect all religions and denominations, even though we don't believe in many things about them."

You don't show respect for others paths, by saying "We are to be obedient and loving, and most Demonic Oppression can be resolved by praying to God and asking the Holy Spirit to reveal your particular sins and then ask forgiveness and repent."

That is not tolerance in any form.

And then to say "It's time for America to Bless God!" only shows that you don't truly know the foundation of our country's basic beliefs. Many Christian's lay this claim, and it's just not true. Why? Then go and read the religious belief's that our founding fathers actually had.


Anonymous said...

Tammy Alenduff said...
It seems to me you say one thing, but don't truly believe it.

I’m not getting that at all, in fact I found the deliverance ministry quite cordial and appropriate for the topic.

You say "Being in the Deliverance Ministry it just amazes me on how many Christians are falling to all the world view of the New Age."

In our views this is a correct statement, this is how we see it.

Then say "The Church is God's Bride and we must respect all religions and denominations, even though we don't believe in many things about them."


We don’t have to believe in what you do and yet it’s always us who have the new age shoved our way and we are just supposed to accept it. In our religion we cannot accept, nor believe what you do, no matter how mad you get, this is not Christianity and there is no deviation from Gods rules we can’t bend them to act like we accept for ourselves anyway except Gods. Period.


You don't show respect for others paths, by saying "We are to be obedient and loving, and most Demonic Oppression can be resolved by praying to God and asking the Holy Spirit to reveal your particular sins and then ask forgiveness and repent."


This is correct in Christianity, all you have to do is ask the father for forgiveness and for salvation and it’s yours, believe he sent his son to die so you may have an eternity in Heaven with God and Jesus and all the wonders he has waiting.


That is not tolerance in any form.
Actually it is


And then to say "It's time for America to Bless God!" only shows that you don't truly know the foundation of our country's basic beliefs. Many Christian's lay this claim, and it's just not true. Why? Then go and read the religious belief's that our founding fathers actually had.

Can I ask you what religion do you think our ‘founding fathers’ had? And do you mean the ‘founding fathers’ of the constitution or the ‘planting fathers’ who were first on this soil?

X said...

@ Tammy,Your hubby would be correct about the devils work if he is a practicing Christian. I don’t try to condemn anyone for whatever path they have chosen, for me and my personal salvation I feel Christianity is the only path.
We are told by Jesus himself there is only way to the father and that is through him, to accept him as our one and only savior. The writing of this particular report seems to come at a very good time and the issues Kirby address are very real, Christians are being persecuted in every way when it comes to our faith.
If we mention it we are told the bible is written by men a long time ago when in fact the word was inspired by God to man. It seems no one wants to get that correct and maybe that means they would have to respect for Christians beliefs and that is something Ive not yet experienced from new age believers

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