Thursday, June 7, 2012

The Real Supernatural World vs. The Fake One

By Lisa Grace

With the prevalence of science fantasy and science fiction books and movies, the line between the real supernatural world and the fake have become blurred.

The practice of magic, the use of Ouija boards, and tarot cards, have become common place and are no longer considered by society as dangerous and a form of attracting demons.

On twitter and other forms of social media, you can get in touch with thousands of people who practice drinking blood, and practicing magic. Many believe because of the blurred lines, these practices are just “fun” and not a way to attract demonic activity.

For this reason, I would love to see a distinction made between the real supernatural world and the fake one.

In the book world, I believe it's time for a new genre. Science fiction and science fantasy are separate genres. In science fiction, you have stories that must fit into the science world based on known or plausible theories of science.

Science fantasy includes but is not limited to the aliens, wizards, dragons etc... and things that do not exist in our world, and do not have to follow the 22 rules that hold our universe together.

Books about the supernatural should be split the same way. We know certain supernatural creatures exist form the Bible. (Colossians 1:16, Romans 8:38) They are split into several categories: The Arch Angel (We are aware of only one from the Bible), Angels, Seraphim, Cherubim, Principalities, Authorities, Powers, Thrones, Might, Dominion, disembodied Demons, Nephilim, Giants, the women (in heaven), and the beasts before the throne.

Other supernatural creatures are man-made, such as vampires, werewolves, zombies, aliens etc...

I would like to see a split in the genre between the real supernatural and the rest.

What do you think?

16 comments:

Paranormal Christian said...

Two Thumbs Up

Anonymous said...

aliens exist. not man made. man is made from aliens.

X said...

to PC what's 2 thumbs up? or were you too busy to write more than that?

X said...

The real supernatural world -VS- the fake one?

Isn’t that an oxymoron?

I think you have no more an idea than anyone else in the 'paranormal' I will elaborate; you are a fiction writer who tries to blur the lines of fiction and biblical scripture. You try to convince others you have a handle on this by claiming you are blessed with discernment.

True discerned individuals don't do this, it's against the gift from the Holy Spirit to make the assumptions you do for your fiction fans and those who don't understand or know the bible as well as a learned individual.

This is not discernment.

I’m curious as to what you feel we should be getting back to? All the things in the Para-world are against the teachings of God in the first place, Necromancy, divination these in any form is paganism.
So getting back to new genres of separation, maybe best to practice what you preach.
I am happy for you as far as your fictional writings being made into a movie, I am happy you have been blessed with success but I am not happy about the mixture of self-proclaimed rules made up by individuals whose ego is writing the checks that .. Well you know the rest.

Since I have noticed you have a penchant to delete comments you just don’t like, I have a copy and will take it as something I need to blog about where it cannot be deleted, Paranormal Black Book

http://paranormalblackbook.wordpress.com/

Sincerely,
X

Lisa Grace said...

X- Why hide behind an initial? I've never deleted a comment, ever. What purpose would that serve? Specifically which scripture are you referring to that disagrees with anything I've said? I'd like scriptural references to back you up please. Where in the Holy scritures does it say people with discernment are not to share it???
What checks??? I just gave my book a way for free this last week, over 2,600 copies.
Why all the lies?
Lie one# I've never deleted a comment.
Lie #2 Your saying what I say isn't scriptural.
Lie #3 All things in the Para-world are against the teachings of God. God lives in the para world. God expects us to join Him through His Son's sacrifice, (if you accept it and choose to repent and love Him) in the para-world. Angels, messengers of God (among other jobs)live in the paranormal world. Jesus even said we may entertain them unawares.
If you really believed what you were saying was true, you have the guts not to hide behind an initial and lay on the line who you are and what your agenda is. I have nothing to hide.
P.S.You know who likes to accuse, lie, and hide, don't you?

Lisa Grace said...

Sorry for the typos in my above post. I have an excited puppy on my lap and accidently hit publish instead of preview. C'est la vie.

X said...

Good lord you're an egomaniac Lisa
The lies are yours and you do blur the lines of scripture with your fiction, Lisa you can’t make God fit into the paranormal world just to make yourself feel better or sell a book, or give one away for that matter, wrong is wrong. My feeling is this; don't twist scripture for your own benefit.
And comments have been deleted as recent as last week’s blog. Check and see and that's not the first time. It has gotten to a point that I'm receiving emails about it.

X said...

I’m positive true discernment is not one of your ‘gifts’ or you would not take such an indignant stance against being questioned.

"For you were once darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Walk as children of light (for the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness, righteousness, and truth), finding out what is acceptable to the Lord. And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them." Ephesians 5:8-11

I just am not getting that last sentence when I read your blogs :/ this one(have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them.)

X said...

[X- Why hide behind an initial? I've never deleted a comment, ever.]


Comments have been deleted as recent as last week’s blog. Check and see and that's not the first time. It has gotten to a point that I'm receiving emails about it.

[What purpose would that serve]

I don’t know, ask whoever has the power to censor comments because it IS happening


[Specifically which scripture are you referring to that disagrees with anything I've said? I'd like scriptural references to back you up please. Where in the Holy scritures does it say people with discernment are not to share it???]

Discernment is to be used for the Lords purpose not your own profit and point out where I said you can’t share


[What checks??? I just gave my book a way for free this last week, over 2,600 copies. ]

Heh heh, I will spell this one out for you my dear, when a person has a huge ego such as you for instance there is an old saying that their mouth is writing checks their ass can’t cash. It means that talk is cheap relative to performance, or that promising something and delivering on it are two different things. A phrase similar in meaning is "Money talks, bullshit walks." I did not think I needed to spell it out for you when I wrote it.


[Why all the lies? ]

Why all the accusations and paranoia?

[Lie one# I've never deleted a comment.]

Someone has


[Lie #2 Your saying what I say isn't scriptural.]

This is getting so petty but again I said you BLUR the lines between fiction and scriptures to suit your agenda and it’s true. Just read the next paragraph to confirm.


[Lie #3 All things in the Para-world are against the teachings of God. God lives in the para world. God expects us to join Him through His Son's sacrifice, (if you accept it and choose to repent and love Him) in the para-world. Angels, messengers of God (among other jobs)live in the paranormal world. Jesus even said we may entertain them unawares.]

God does not "live" in the Para-world he lives inside your heart and soul you crazy blasphemer! God despises necromancy in all forms why would he ‘live’ in the paranormal when everything about it contradicts his word.

Deuteronomy 18:10-13
10 Let no one be found among you who sacrifices their son or daughter in the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft, 11 or casts spells, or who is a medium or spiritist or who consults the dead. 12 Anyone who does these things is detestable to the LORD; because of these same detestable practices the LORD your God will drive out those nations before you. 13 You must be blameless before the LORD your God.

But he did not say make them glorified in such a manner as to worship them as deity’s or call them, only through Gods word shall they be sent.


[If you really believed what you were saying was true, you have the guts not to hide behind an initial and lay on the line who you are and what your agenda is. I have nothing to hide.
P.S.You know who likes to accuse, lie, and hide, don't you?]


I do know who lies ;) and so does God and I have laid it on the line and btw I have earned my privacy. I call it as I see it and feel it; you have an ego that interferes with being a true messenger of his word.
Again with the persecution complex?! lol, all because you have been questioned and not taken as the holy grail of the informed, enlightened individual.

eyeontheparanormal said...

We remove posts that simply attack this blog and those who post on it we find it odd the haters can never deal in facts

Keep your eye on the Eye on the Paranormal because we have a lot of exposing to do!

Please engage in a discussion of the facts instead of personal attacks. Also, please refrain from swearing as this is a G-rated blog.

Use your own name/company name if making a comment.

Lisa Grace said...

X why hide your real name and agenda? God's world is the paranormal. He is the way, the truth, and the light.

There's no need to bring in bad language. There's no need for you to attack me personally. (This makes you look rather immature.)
Again, (keeping me out of it) what scriptural reference did you disagree with?
You disagree that people have a man-made fake supernatural view as opposed to a real one?

There is a real supernatural world and a fake one.

Which point do you disagree with? Taht demons and angels are real? That vampires are fake? Even most unbelievers in Christianity agree on those points.
We can't have a discussion if all you do is cuss, and make personal assults rather than name which scriptural reference you think is taken out of context.
I'm more than willing to address this with you.

Ego has nothing to do with getting people to read their Bibles and research the facts for themselves.

Lisa Grace said...

x - The definition of the word paranormal: impossible to explain scientifically: unable to be explained or understood in terms of scientific knowledge

We can not explain God. Therefore, He as the Creator resides (at least part time) in the "paranormal" world.
What does your quoting a passage about withcraft have to do with anything except that you and I both agree it's an abomination to God???

Obviously, you've never read my books. Can you stay on topic, and talk about what specifically you disagree with?

X said...

Everything you hide behind is what I disagree with, you have taken the word of God and applied it to your and then sell it as real Christianity! I will never read your books, I have read what you write here and witnessed your ego when questioned.

X said...

First don’t be a coward, I’m on topic, second I find it interesting the only scripture you disagree with is as you say “witchcraft”


X why hide your real name and agenda? God's world is the paranormal. He is the way, the truth, and the light.
like I told you I earned my privacy in this realm of twisted agendas. I earned it fighting and doing good, I accomplished many victory’s, I do not need any more glory- I don’t need my name known to all to work for God. Rest assured I’m known to a very small trusted few and as you can see I’m still here ;)
Your sentence above alone sums your work up, you try to justify and twist our lords name into your agenda, you sicken me. Nice blend/blur (again) first God’s “world” is the saving of MAN not “the paranormal” and


There's no need to bring in bad language. There's no need for you to attack me personally. (This makes you look rather immature.)
LOL you needed an explanation for such a simple saying because you were so emotional someone actually didn’t fall all over what your write, I know Facebook is full of ninny’s who do such but I’m not one of them, so I simply copied and pasted that definition for you.
*for those reading this is a reference to her ego writing checks her a** can’t cash* there my dear does the asterisk in place of 2 ss’s make your feel better?

X said...

Again, (keeping me out of it) what scriptural reference did you disagree with?
You disagree that people have a man-made fake supernatural view as opposed to a real one?
You writing that “God lives in the paranormal” but in another reply you write God “cannot be explained” IF you were really truly a Christian writer and saved the Holy Spirit would guide your inner soul and would not allow you to blur these lines and twist every word of God for your own pleasure. Anyone saved by Grace could not agree with any of what your write. Grace is most powerful supernatural force in the universe
3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, 4 who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave Himself a ransom for all, 1 Timothy Chapter 2
For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God,Eph. 2:8
There is that number one again 


There is a real supernatural world and a fake one.
No here you blur and twist again, for the devil is at work in the minds of those unsaved and they use that imagination to call themselves -vampires, zombie cult, they drink blood, preform ritual. So this is the fake supernatural world? No this is result of the “unseen world “the one and only supernatural world concerns God. You tell lies when you say there is a separation a fake supernatural world and a real supernatural world. note the word one, and one is throughout the bible when it speaks of our lord


Which point do you disagree with? Taht demons and angels are real? That vampires are fake? Even most unbelievers in Christianity agree on those points.
LOL, is that (spelled like this T-H-A-T) a little snide innuendo? That I’m an unbeliever in Christianity? You’re a nasty little viper when questioned aren’t you? Yea I’d call that an ego overload on your part dear.
Ephesians 6:12 we read, For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
James 2:19 it is stated You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that...and shudder. Theres that number one again

X said...

Again, (keeping me out of it) what scriptural reference did you disagree with?
You disagree that people have a man-made fake supernatural view as opposed to a real one?

Yes I do. Now here you blur and twist again, for the devil is at work in the minds of those unsaved and they use that imagination to call themselves -vampires, zombie cult, they drink blood, preform ritual to mock God and the death of Jesus upon the cross, this is not fake. The vampire sect drinks blood in ritual to mock Christianity and the Eucharist, everything they do is done in mocking our Lord this is not fake. The list goes on but (maybe) you see my point?

This is result of the “unseen world” the one and only supernatural world concerns God. You tell lies when you say there is a separation a fake supernatural world and a real supernatural world.
Note the word one, and one is throughout the bible when it speaks of our lord


Sincerely,
X

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