Saturday, December 10, 2011

Para Unity in the Paranormal Community, Can it Happen?

By Martha Hazzard Decker

Para Unity in the Paranormal Community, can it happen? Like any other industry the paranormal industry is made up of many different paranormal communities. Many individuals probably have never thought of paranormal investigations and paranormal research as an industry. If one were to stop and think about it, I think they just might begin to think about it in a different light. It is an industry of TV shows, paranormal events at haunted locations, bed and breakfasts, clothing, books, and movies and so on. Yes, there is money to be made in the educational and entertainment side of the industry.

There are para unity groups, radio shows and Internet TV shows dedicated to raising awareness within the paranormal community to stop the in-fighting and start working together as a whole. It has become the “hot topic” of the year and is a good idea whose time may have come. Some of the meanness that is out there and within the community could also be caused by closed eyes or narrow viewpoints. A response to an article by Dr. Michael Frisbee, The Paranormal Christian, Deceptive Doctrines of the Occult is a good example. In order for unity to begin it must come from within. There will never be a time when everyone or every group has the exact same beliefs or thoughts. That idea could lead us to become assimilated into a world of Star Trek or even Dr. Who. It would be professional for groups and individuals to come together and try to unite and then work toward the ultimate goal of working together.

Many paranormal groups are doing just that and have always done just that and will continue on the same path. It’s a good thing when one group can trust another group and call them when their help is needed or a case may actually be in their locale. One group on FaceBook is the Southeast Oklahoma Paranormal Investigators and member Nikki Buchanan are doing just that and helping their community. Buchanan belongs to many FaceBook groups and has worked to bring the community together and assist her in obtaining goods to pass out to seniors in her community for the holidays. Often the good will go unnoticed and the drama wins out. Para drama has been around for years and will continue to spin around like As the World Turns.

Several months ago an Internet TV show listed para unity as the topic for that night. Several individuals tuned in only to discover a diatribe of statements against another group. Para unity? It must have flown out the door to the studio when it was last opened. It was interesting to watch how people would come in to watch and leave after a few minutes. This was noted through the chat room.

Why is there such discord within the paranormal community? Some think jealousy is the reason. Others think their area is for them alone and become territorial. Some expect another group coming into their space to contact them and ask for permission. If anyone has a list of paranormal groups and their territories it might be handy to post it online for others to read. Some groups may want to be on TV so much so that they will do whatever it takes to get their show.

One Internet radio show that broadcasts through George Lopez’ Dead Air radio shows Weekend from Waco is hosted by Reverend Mark Manly and he often talks about unity within the community. He often hosts other groups and individuals who are working for unity.

It seems that paranormal unity or para unity has become the buzz word of the decade. It seems that every decade has a buzz word or idea. In the eighties it was putting tubes in the ears of children and it moved on to the idea that if a child was active, they must be hyperactive. It changes and will continue to change decade by decade. A simple way to unit is to “go with the flow” so to speak. Granted some of that comes with age and life experience, but when it does come life becomes better.

A search on Google using paranormal unity will bring up quite a few websites to search. There is one site aptly named Paranormal Unity and its mission is to bring individuals within the community together who are willing to work together. They had a good idea but the site appears to be defunct yet the links for groups around the country still work. There is a banner page with some nice graphics that are offered to the public and can be used to show support of para unity.

Some individuals think that para unity is an ill-conceived idea due to the trickery and fakes who abound online. One way to help change the public’s idea or at least get some of them to begin to view the paranormal community as a viable idea is to help weed out the fakers. That is different than having unity within the community and a goal that can be worked on as a whole. Scam artists exist everywhere and in all walks of life. The aggravating and potentially dangerous part of that is that unsuspecting victims allow them into their homes. That is the discussion for another article. Tony Hart-Wilden writes in his commentary on Who Forted the following about unity, “Paranormal individuality doesn’t mean you can’t research and exchange information with others, but it does mean you can be selective what method, theory and evidence you chose to accept. And it won’t stop you from listening to other people’s opinions and ideas, if you did that, how could you possibly criticize them? How much of joining, a family, network, or crew, is actually just a propaganda tool for the people that started them. And when it’s related to a group that has a T.V show, or puts on high profile events, who actually joins for the unity and who joins for the reflected glory? Instead of relying on someone else to open doors for you, why not try to open them yourselves ? When your not bound by anyone else’s rules or protocols you can still learn from them, but only if you chose to do so, rather then having them inflicted upon you by being a member of a group that imposes them.”

Who is right and who is wrong may seem like a school yard battle, but responsible groups working together can usually win out. Even if the other group wants to be on TV so bad they make up evidence, step on their friends and fake cleansings. This is where the truth will prevail or come out in the wash one day. Unity can be achieved by some but not by all. There are plenty of groups out there that strive to work with other groups and individuals. That’s how the change begins.

57 comments:

Anonymous said...

It will never happen. The contemporary paranormal community is comprised of TV wannabes therefore elimination of perceived competition is ingrained in the very simple psyche of the modern ghost buster.

Anonymous said...

Interesting that you refer to the para-community as an "industry" Martha ;)

Anonymous said...

So you are promoting "unity" yet also expressing a need to "weed out the fakers"?

A little FYI: self proclaimed para-police are responsible for a HUGE portion of the drama in the community.

Sandra said...

Once again, you have written an excellent article! Unity within the paranormal field will never happen due to the entire community being turned into a competition to see who can become the richest and the most famous. There are far too many massive ego's to deal with as well as opportunists, con artists and those who are basically loony toons!

But you are absolutely right, Martha, it IS an industry and has been made that way by shows like Ghosthunters, Paranormal State, Ghost Adventures, Ghost Detectives, Ghost Hunters Academy, Ghost Hunters International, Ghost Lab, Most Haunted, etc. These shows are far more concerned with becoming celebrities and making money more than finding positive proof of the paranormal. Many of these so called "ghost hunters" have booking agents and are looking to find work other television shows once their 15 minutes of fame is up chasing ghosts.

And while there is indeed a serious need for unity within the paranormal community, there is also a need to expose those who are faking evidence (for the sake of television ratings). Those who feel the need to fabricate evidence of the paranormal give the perception that there is a need to fake evidence because there really are no ghosts to capture on film, audio, etc. In short, it ruins it for the serious investigators who truly are searching for the holy grail of evidence when it comes to proving the existence of ghosts.

Sandra said...

Once again, you have written an excellent article! Unity within the paranormal field will never happen due to the entire community being turned into a competition to see who can become the richest and the most famous. There are far too many massive ego's to deal with as well as opportunists, con artists and those who are basically loony toons!

But you are absolutely right, Martha, it IS an industry and has been made that way by shows like Ghosthunters, Paranormal State, Ghost Adventures, Ghost Detectives, Ghost Hunters Academy, Ghost Hunters International, Ghost Lab, Most Haunted, etc. These shows are far more concerned with becoming celebrities and making money more than finding positive proof of the paranormal. Many of these so called "ghost hunters" have booking agents and are looking to find work other television shows once their 15 minutes of fame is up chasing ghosts.

And while there is indeed a serious need for unity within the paranormal community, there is also a need to expose those who are faking evidence (for the sake of television ratings). Those who feel the need to fabricate evidence of the paranormal give the perception that there is a need to fake evidence because there really are no ghosts to capture on film, audio, etc. In short, it ruins it for the serious investigators who truly are searching for the holy grail of evidence when it comes to proving the existence of ghosts.

Anonymous said...

@ Sandra

So you liked this article so much you posted the same comment twice? ;)

All of the self proclaimed "serious investigators" these days are in it because of these shows, yourself and Martha included. (assuming you are one of those "serious investigators" that is)

MarDeck said...

Anonymous, yes it is an industry and that includes scientific research. That doesn't necessarily mean that's a bad thing. Research, writing books and so on cost money.

Yes, I am also writing books and hope to have the first one out by May. Going to conferences, joining groups, talking with people around the globe is how you learn and network within the community.

I am an investigator and not a researcher, while I do know a few really smart and serious researchers, I don't have the mechanical knowledge to do what they do.

The article is not written about a specific person and is written to elicit thought, communication and comments. I think it has done just that. Just because something is on TV also doesn't mean it is all bad. What is bad is that there are so many individuals who have been interested in the paranormal forming groups and blindly going out into their communities without proper direction. They watch TV and think this is how it is done without realizing the show is there for entertainment purposes.

It's like a police officer watching COPS to learn what NOT to do in real everyday police business.

The paranormal community doesn't have to hire paranormal police, but if some people become aware of a group or individual scamming unsuspecting individuals should one just turn away and ignore it? Is it OK to allow them to scam, take money or hurt someone?

Paranormal unity has nothing to do with "weeding out the fakers. That's another topic. The fakers are out there in all walks of life. It's best for people to beware and remember if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.....

Thanks for posting your thoughts Anonymous, it is what I am looking for since everyone has valued ideas and their own opinions. Without communication we will never go forward.I appreciate you taking the time to read the article.

Sandra said...

@ Anonymous:

You can't possibly be that dumb can you? Just as an FYI: I have absolutely NO control over how many times my post posted on this site. You seem highly jealous of Martha's writing skills. My guess is that you are malcontent with zero writing skills and a need to try to attack those whom you envy. I never claimed to be a "serious investigator", so I am not sure where you pulled that one out of. Well wait, yes I can---directly where you speak from--your anus. Stop sucking on sour grapes, you no talent hack.

MarDeck said...

Sandra, I appreciate your response, the time it took you to read the article, your comment and your support :)

Sandy said...

@ Martha,

Excellent response to Anonymous...You display aan elevated amount of intelligence & maturity as well as a grasp of the English language that Anonymous clearly lacks. Keep on writing your articles as they are exceptionally well written as well as informative.

Sandra said...

Make that "an" elevated amount of maturity...Mea culpa on the typo! I had better put this disclaimer out there before Anonymous decides to jump all over it and make a mountain out of a mole hill! LOL! Seems that all Anonymous can do is attack, attack, attack. Must be a really sad person to be around. All that jealousy and hate for those who display far more intelligence than they could ever hope to possess. I pity poor Anonymous.

Anonymous said...

Martha your article is doing what you intended and I'm happy you can see that, I feel you are new to this blog and may not realize who "Sandra"/ sandy" is, a malcontent that was dispersed from her post atop the Psychic Kids fan page by Kirby himself, she appears in many articles here as many names but always the same undertone of bitterness she exudes with such prominence in every post she writes, her site a flop, her books a flop even now her poor position in life another flop. Just know there is an ulterior motive for her being here, I'm sure you will see her again over and over and over.

Anonymous said...

Oh yea, she always "pity's poor someone" LOL so transparent.

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Anonymous said...

Thanks for the rational reply Martha and not construing my comments as personal in nature as they weren't intended as such.

The inference that the para-community is an "industry" instills a connotation of greed.

The current concept of the "paranormal team" is exclusively modeled after contemporary para-TV (with the exception of Scooby Doo) and the most if not all of these TV emulating teams even employ the pseudoscience completely founded on marketing modified or fabricated useless gadgetry to fans of these shows. Fans that never question the origin of EMF and how it came to be almost universally accepted as indicative of supernatural activity when there is NOTHING to validate this as a viable hypothesis. Full spectrum IR and thermal photography has provided nothing but even more blurry imagery yet people still cling to this faux science because they believe what they are spoon fed on TV. I wont even bother explaining why Ovilus/Frank's/Ghost box's are a joke and most (if not all) EVPs are auditory pareidolia if not completely hoaxed.

Is an "EMF pump" supposed to be ghost bait or a hallucination generator? Some of these "teams" flip flop between both false theorems depending on how EMF fits whatever false perception they are trying to convey.

I could go on really, but I'm sure you get my drift.

Anonymous said...

@ Sandy
Your evident scatological obsession seems to be severely limiting your ability to express yourself cogently. I would work on that if I were you and I wont bother to dignify the rest of your incoherent dribble with a protracted response.

Anonymous said...

If you really want to enjoy a paranormal playground full of zesty- questers and Boo Croo peeps come ckeck out "itshaunted.com" where you will always have a crackalackalckalckakin good time!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

You shut up anonimos! you are just jealous of marthas elevator writing skills and wish you had a reel K2 meter to!

anus butt ass poop!

Sandra said...

Martha,

Please know that I am NOT the same Sandra that is from the Psychic Kids Page. I know who she is and trust me, we are NOTHING alike. Unfortunately, Temperence/Aanica (a.k.a. "Anonymous") thinks that the name Sandra only applies to the woman who endorses the obviously gay psychic Chip Coffey. When my parents named me, the name Sandra was quite popular, and as you can well guess, there are millions upon millions of Sandra's the world over! How silly & ignorant of "Anonymous" to blindly assume that just because my name is Sandra that I must be the same Sandra from the Psychic Kids Page That blind assumption is not only absurd, it is totally wrong. And I just want to make sure that you know the truth---something that is a totally foreign concept to someone like "Anonymous".

Sandra said...

"Anonymous" must be have taken her meds and is now trying her best to appear rational by pretending that she was not originally attacking Martha! I think that Martha is a highly intelligent woman, and therefore, smart enough to see right through "Anonymous" and her lame (not to mention unsuccessful!) attempt to appear to be a sane, rational person.

By the way, "Anonymous" your sad attempt to appear well educared by using "big" words is laughable at best! You go from frothing at the mouth one minute, to trying to regain your composure and appear sane & rational the next! What is this, multiple personalities fighting to gain dominance in that murky brain pan of yours? Your attempts to sound educated are quite pathetic, and serve as entertainment more than anything else.

So you keep right on frothing at the mouth and displaying your ignorance---it's quite humorous. Thank you for non-stop laughs! LOL! You have made my week! LOL! Oh, and I do pity you because you are highly pathetic. I sincerely hope that you get some help for your mental illness because you sure do come across as being a complete nut job!

Sandra said...

Ooops, I made some more typos in my last post! Mea culpa on those!!! We wouldn't want poor little "Anonymous" to break her precious neck in her frenzied haste to point them out! LOL!

Anonymous said...

Sandra, are you replying to actual comments here in the discussion at this point or just the voices in your head?

I really don't understand why you take such umbrage to my expressed POV and Martha even welcomed my comments graciously.

Also, you really should strive to expand on that repetitious little diatribe you have spewed at this site ad-nauseum, your limitations are becoming quite apparent and very obvious that it is just one very obsessed, venomous person behind all this.

Your mental instability and impulsive volatility absolutely radiates from these raving posts and you don't even seem sure who you are targeting as the focal point of your obsession.

Please get help, you are obviously an psychologically disturbed individual.

Sorry about all this Martha, unfortunately psychos like "Sandy" tend to gravitate towards the par-community right along with the frauds.

Anonymous said...

Quote Sandra:

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By the way, "Anonymous" your sad attempt to appear well educared by using "big" words is laughable at best!
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LMAO, somebody get a net!

norm said...

unity is a pipe dream and the next thing will be who decides on what we can and cannot do. free mines will bring results. with strings you get tied up.besides are we not being lead by the spirits Test that spirit

Anonymous said...

@ Norm

I ran that reply through Google Translator but unfortunately I'm still in the dark, would you please rephrase or clarify that statement.

Thanks :)

Sandra said...

So full of envy and hate...Poor little Aanica. Save the "net" for yourself. I don't think I have ever encountered someone as loony or obnoxious on the internet as you. But then, this type of petty, asinine behavior has been your method of operation for several years now, and on many other web sites. You have been banned and run off from so many sites now that it mus be hard for you to keep track. Hopefully, Mr. Robinson will end your tyrranical bullying and non-stop attacks on various posters his web site. You can keep on denying that you need mental health assistance, but anyone who reads your nonsensical drivel can discern for themselves that you are crazier than an outhouse rat. You must be a real peach to be around in real life! I sincerely hope that you do not have children, as I pray that you have not passed on your insanity to them. Now go up your dose.

Sandra said...

@ Martha,

"Anonymous" (a.k.a. Aanica) should be apologizing to you because she is the one who intially attacked you, while I have been nothing but complimentary in regards to your superior writing abilities from the get-go. She is notorious for starting a bunch of bickering and chaos then she swiftly shifts gears and tries to pretend to be the good guy when nothing could be further from the truth. Do a little research on her and you will see for yourself that she is a raving lunatic who engages in senseless internet battles and then when the heat gets too hot, she runs like the little coward onto the next web site where she repeats her pattern all over again. She is an expert at trying to create subterfuge and she likes to try to take the focus off of her insanity, but her past history alone speaks volumes as to her obvious mental illness!

Sandra said...

Not sure who Stephy H is nor do I care. So, if that was a threat, try again.

Anonymous said...

Oh Enigma/Stephanie Stacy Hatton it's not Aanica your dealing with

Anonymous said...

Personally I think you are over-reacting just a tad Sandy-Sandra-Whatever.

I wrote this:
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@ Sandra
"So you liked this article so much you posted the same comment twice? ;)

All of the self proclaimed "serious investigators" these days are in it because of these shows, yourself and Martha included. (assuming you are one of those "serious investigators" that is)"
.................................

Which promoted this highly exaggerated, hormonally charged, hyper emotional retort:

Quote Sandra:
..................................
@ Anonymous:

"You can't possibly be that dumb can you? Just as an FYI: I have absolutely NO control over how many times my post posted on this site. You seem highly jealous of Martha's writing skills. My guess is that you are malcontent with zero writing skills and a need to try to attack those whom you envy. I never claimed to be a "serious investigator", so I am not sure where you pulled that one out of. Well wait, yes I can---directly where you speak from--your anus. Stop sucking on sour grapes, you no talent hack."
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So you really think my innocuous little quip about your double post warrants this much of a tantrum? If so, then you are a highly irrational individual plus I clearly posed the supposition parenthetically: "assuming you are one of those "serious investigators" that is" Again, Martha wasn't offended in the least so one has to wonder what precisely is at the root of your extremely aberrant behavior?

Adverse side-effect of post menopausal estrogen therapy perhaps?

I'm terribly sorry about the double post ribbing since it has evidently caused you an inordinate amount emotional duress. Conversely, I have noticed that no one else seems to have this problem so why is this something only you in particular "have no control over"?

Anonymous said...

@ Sandra

Not a threat at all, just a little friendly tip to remind you that Enigma/Stephie H. from Scifake has probably amassed a huge amount of enemies at this point and should be careful of what she posts. No threat implied :)

Anonymous said...

@ Sandy/Sandra

Yes your little spiel is severely limited and your childish epithets are obtuse in their impotence, but you just keep right on spewing the same insipid nonsense over and over like an Alzheimer patient with turrets LOL

I too have been banned from a handful of irrelevant paranormal forums that were incompetently administered to which I took great pleasure notifying them of such. All but one are currently either closed or completely devoid of traffic.

Too many to count? I suspect this is yet another claim you wont be able to validate, of course I doubt you can count past 4 so perhaps in this isolated instance, you are actually being truthful.

Yeah, I know "up my meds" (for the 10th time) I guess your redundant lack of creativity is partially behind what fuels your blaring insecurity, inferiority complex, seething jealousy, stalking pathology, incremental lapses of lucidity and telltale cognitive distortions.

I'm Bored-

Anonymous said...

@ Sandra/Sandy

One more thing:
Martha did not perceive my first comment in this thread as an "initial attack"(because it clearly wasn't) so do stop attempting to insert your fractured schizo-reality into the real world you cretinous subhuman.

Don't kid yourself, you are losing and losing BAD.

Sandra said...

Keep right on guessing Aanica...Speaking of enemies, you have quite a long list of them! More than enough, quite frankly! Oh, and nice try with all of the ATTEMPTED name dropping. LOL! I'm sure Enigma from SciFake has nothing to hide or worry about! LOL! Enigma doesn't have a history of running when the threat of a lawsuit is mentioned like YOU did on SciFake. Lots of people heard all about your little freak out when Chip Coffey's attorney threatened to sue SciFake. You were an Admin there, and you bailed on Ron Tebo by erasing EVERY single post that you (and your boyfriend) had on SciFake before slinking away with your tail tucked firmly between your legs and shaking in your proverbial boots because you thought that Chip was going to sue YOU for libel (ha ha ha ha). What you do on the internet cannot be erased, Einstein. If Chip still wants a piece of your arse, he will get it don't worry! One of your biggest problems is that you like to run your mouth, Merita and then when the heat gets too hot for you, you run like the coward you are. Enigma stuck around because she had nothing to worry about or hide. So, IF you think that putting people's names out there intimidates anyone, then you are sadly mistaken. The only one losing bad, here is you because once again, your psychotic behavior comes shining right through. Please continue to prove to everyone how much of a whack job you are! LOL! And keep right on TRYING to name drop, its amusing.

Anonymous said...

Oh please Stephie/Enigma, Scifake is dead in the water now because the previous admin left and you suck-PERIOD.
She left simply because you returned and tried to re-infuse your trash talking, redneck banter into an evolved Scifake regardless how much you want to try to blame yet another hollow threat of a Chip Coffey lawsuit. (Like anyone buys that one) I invite anyone to monitor the lack of traffic at Scifake now that Enigma has returned with her obsolete, cliché riddled brand of low class, obscenity spewing, inbred, trashiness and see how much is happening there and when the last article was even posted.

Yeah you just keep "hanging in there" Enigma/Stephie, everyone else has left and you are an unmitigated loser LOL. Wherever Aanica goes the viewpoints are through the roof, numbers don't lie Creepella, sorry (eat your heart out skank) :)

Enigma said...

Wow! Looks like Aanica is up to her old tricks! I heard that my name was mentioned on here and I'm not exactly sure why, but here is the deal. I am an Admin on SciFake and a friend of Ron Tebo's. Very rarely do I post here. However, I like Kirby and I most certainly support his efforts. I took the time to read this article and was impressed with Ms. Decker's viewpoint and writing ability. Nice job on the article, ma'am.

Now, I could honestly care less who knows my "real" name, as I have nothing to hide or worry about in the least. I do not make it a habit of attacking others on the internet by using a plethora of fake usernames. It is simply not my style. If I have something to say, I say it, period. I do not believe in letting cyber bullies get away with playing little reindeer games by trying to intimidate me, so that is why I am now here.

For the record, Aanica had a falling out with Ron after she erased every single post that she had ever posted on SciFake after she became concerned that Chip Coffey was going to sue her for all of the really nasty things that she had said about him. Of that, I can attest to because I was privvy to all of this when it went down. She basically left Ron holding the bag and disappeared from the site completely due to her fear of Chip Coffey coming after her. So don't let all of Aanica's (whose real name is Merita by the way) false bravado fool you. Sandra is right, what she did was quite cowardly.

Aanica showed up on SciFake a week or so ago, running off at the mouth, using the "F" word and behaving much like she has on here while posting as Anonymous, so I deleted all of her post's on Scifake due to her violating our terms of service. I cleared it all through Ron first of course, since it is his site. But I am guessing that she must he harboring some ill will over it and that has to be why she is trying to get my name involved in this mess here on Kirby's site.

It is a shame that Aanica has turned this entire thread into one giant personal attack, but it is what she does folks. Sandra is absolutely right about Merita's long history of causing trouble and attacking people all over the internet. I have viewed the sites myself and have read the comments and could only shake my head at the idiocy of it all. She has carved out quite a path of bullying and harassment on many different sites. This, is an absolute fact.

But anyway, whatever power you think you might have thought that had over me, Merita, know this: I could honestly care less about you, your opinions, or your very existence. It is all mind over matter. I do not mind, because you simply do not matter to me. I am not about to waste any precious time on the likes of you. I could honestly care less who knows who I am either, so "if" you thought that this was some kind of 'ace in the hole' by putting my name (and my partners name) out there, think again. It is a total non-event in my eyes.

I have had people ask me if I think that Merita is a little touched in the head, and after seeing everything that she has done on SciFake, on other sites and now here, I would have to say: WITHOUT A DOUBT! You betcha! So do yourself a favor, Merita and keep me out of your b.s. I have no interest in it or in you for that matter. You have to be one of the most inconsequential individuals that I have ever had the displeasure of conversing with over the internet.

I find you to be a very mean spirited individual with a rather hateful agenda. And I would have to agree with whomever said that you appear to take joy in going on the offensive and attacking whomever dares to stand up to you and your attempts to impose your will on others. Opposing views makes the world go round, hopefully you will learn that one day instead of behaving like a dysfunctional child who is prone to condescending temper tantrums where you lash out and continuously attack. As the song goes, "I pray for you!".

Enigma said...

Oh, and before I forget to address this issue: Merita and her boyfriend had NUMEROUS usernames when they were on SciFake and they used them daily. They would use these various usernames in the hopes of making it look like SciFake had tons of traffic on the site, however, this was not so. I ran the IP's and they all came back (with the exception of like 3 other people) to be from Merita and her boyfriend. So, Merita's claims that there was more traffic when she was there is totally false. It is utterly ridiculous for the same 2 people to keep posting under different usernames in the hopes of making it look like Scifake had more traffic on the site than there really was. Must have been real fun carrying on on conversations with themselves! Bottom line, the truth needs to be put out there since Merita wants to make false claims and keep spreading lies. I have no reason to lie and have the data to back up everything that I have said.

Anonymous said...

@ Sandra

"Whack-job" again? You really do need to upgrade that weak little arsenal of yours.

Just an FYI: "name dropping" is when you try to associate yourself with someone famous or important and constantly mention knowing them in some capacity. Since "Enigma/Stephie" hardly qualifies as "famous or important", I'd work on the erroneous terminology as well.

Remember: "GEDs are free"

Enigma said...

Keep right on talking, Merita. You nutty responses are truly bizarre. We all know how you ran like a coward when Chip threatened his lawsuit against Ron and Scifake. So much so that you erased every single post from the site in an attempt to erase YOUR participation in committing LIBEL. Clearly, you have some serious issues going on. I have to agree with Sandra that you should seek some help. Just drop the act already. It is getting quite sad. Your tactics are the same wherever you go. Your writing style is always the same. And as far as all of your name calling, puhhhlease...Are those the best names that you can come up with to attack me? LOL! Work on some different ones and get back to me. You know, what I find highly amusing though is the fact that you just cannot seem to leave well enough alone. Perhaps you should get a job, get a hobby, or get a life. You obviously have none of these things or else you would not spend so much time attacking people over the internet. Grow up.

Anonymous said...

@ Enigma/Sandra

Soooooo I guess Sandra is Enigma after all. (thanks for taking the bait dumbass) LOL

Oh yes, the huge traffic and giant viewpoints that used to prevail at Scifake were all because of Annica and her BF posting under false names LOL! Curious, what's it like to dwell in a completely solipsistic fantasy world Stephie, does it fill the void there is no man to fill?

Should I post a list of regulars that used to post there that have since bailed Skankzilla returned? A list that includes Kirby and many other known entities she would be hard pressed to claim are simply pseudonyms.

Give up, log off, drive to Orlando and march in the Snow White parade with sparkly pom-poms at Disney World ya ditzy bimbo. LOL

Anonymous said...

@ Enigma

She erased those posts at Scifake to illustrate how lacking the site would be without them and was obviously successful in doing so based on its current state of dormancy.

Aside from the fact that you intimated very specific details about Scifake in this thread as Enigma AND Sandra (dumbass) You want to know what unequivocally gave you away as Sandra and a cowardly poster under another name in the other thread? (should I tell her?)

BTW-I'm just playing right now, I suggest you run along. ;)

Anonymous said...

Like Enigma and Sandra aren't the same person LMAO!

You'll notice Sandra's post at:
December 11, 2011 4:18PM

Then Enigma posted virtually the same lame PMS addled rant exactly 30 minutes later about Scifake at:
December 11, 2011 4:48PM

Talk about a coward! She only posted as Enigma because she knew she was busted.

You are truly a bumbling buffoon LOL

Anonymous said...

http://i40.tinypic.com/wboqrn.jpg

Ouch on the IP evidence LOL

Wow, Enigma sure seems to have a penchant for homophobic hate speech concerning Chip Coffey whereas Aanica merely objected to "Psychic Kids" and "Paranormal State" in general.

I seem to remember seeing a few such posts like that from Enigma floating around the net, in fact didn't Sandra or Sandy make some sort of an anti-gay reference right here in this very thread? I think she did!

Tsk Tsk Tsk such hate!

Anonymous said...

Here it is, who else couldn't resist making a derogatory seeming comment about chip's orientation completely out of context?

Sandra/Enigma said:
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"Martha,
Please know that I am NOT the same Sandra that is from the Psychic Kids Page. I know who she is and trust me, we are NOTHING alike. Unfortunately, Temperence/Aanica (a.k.a. "Anonymous") thinks that the name Sandra only applies to the woman who endorses the obviously gay psychic Chip Coffey. When my parents named me, the name Sandra was quite popular, and as you can well guess, there are millions upon millions of Sandra's the world over! How silly & ignorant of "Anonymous" to blindly assume that just because my name is Sandra that I must be the same Sandra from the Psychic Kids Page That blind assumption is not only absurd, it is totally wrong. And I just want to make sure that you know the truth---something that is a totally foreign concept to someone like "Anonymous".

December 11, 2011 8:44 AM
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Anonymous said...

I encourage everyone to Google "Enigma Scifake" or "Enigma Chip Coffey" and see for yourself what a deranged, foulmouthed, hate monger this woman really is.

And at this point I do personally apologize to both Martha and Kirby for this disruption although it does in fact speak volumes on the subject of "paranormal unity".

Anonymous said...

Gosh what a coincidence, Sandra used the unusual expression "Mea culpa" here in this thread and so has Enigma at Scifake.

Wow, are the chances? LOL

(btw you can't delete a Google cached post so don't bother)
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http://scifake.com/?p=744

Enigma: April 1, 2009 at 1:45 pm

"Make that “disgusted” not “digested”!!!!!!!!!! Mea culpa on the typo!!!!"
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So are you still going to insist you aren't Sandra in this thread?


If I were you I'd drop it, you are WAY out of your league.

Anonymous said...

Okay, first time caller long time listener. Kidding, this is my first visit but here are my thoughts. And these are coming from someone who doesn't have a dog in this fight. (or whatever this is)

I've been involved in the para community for over twenty years now. During this time I've either had the honest pleasure or extreme displeasure of conversing with some of these (alleged) members posting here. What's more, even after offering them a fair chance, I quickly figured out what grade of grease the majority of these players consisted of. Lets start here.

If one of these posters is indeed Aanica, I can attest that she is one of the finest, most upstanding, balanced and educated members of the para community today. Not to forget, she's one hell of a Corespondent. Admittedly, she's been known to be quite the hell cat when riled but from what I've known of her, (and it's been several years now) she's undeniably fair. The only controversial aspect of her personality is she simply refuses to back down from a challenge, or a bully. Especially a bully. (and she never ran from scifake. those simply aren't the facts. it's unfortunate if anyone believes that) Anyway, if that's the worst you can offer about someones psyche after several years of acquaintanceship, then she's probably not that negative of a person. She's also a humanitarian and philanthropist and was involved in many community campaigns. (haven't heard from her in awhile) All of this, combined with the fact that countless people left SciFake (including me) when Aanica did speaks volumes. Not to forget the pulse of SciFake is currently at about 12 bpm without her and under the charge of others. Okay, that's what I know of Aanica, and no, my hand to God no one asked me to submit this post.

If the other poster is indeed Enigma, I can state that initially I enjoyed her posts. I found she had a great sense of humor and was quite diverse in her knowledge with regards to the paranormal. I had respect for her until she began posting under different aliases just to stir the pot at SciFake (regarding chip coffee just to incite a lawsuit) and the vile language and anger she spewed simply wasn't professional or becoming. Thankfully someone with higher scruples deleted her comments before they went any further. I quickly realized that (this) Enigma was easily incited and could be very abusive towards any perceived enemy. In fact, attack mode was imminent if you crossed her. Now in all fairness, she never verbally attacked me though I did witness the causalities she left in her verbal wake. Peruse the web and you'll understand my stance. Just the fact that Enigma stated that she could care less about Aanica yet couldn't relay enough on this post to her should say something. Look, perhaps it's just me but I don't respond well to hate speech or verbal attacks. Regardless if they're directed at me or not.

If the other poster here is the actual Sandra then all I can say is steer clear of this one folks. Sure she may seem passive and fuzzy on the surface but so do sleeping badgers. One minute you're speaking to one person and it's a grab bag party mix on who you'll be speaking to in a moment. "I'm not who you think I am. I'm not even who I think I am. I am however, whoever I think YOU think I am." sums this woman up in my very honest personal opinion. Just accept an unsolicited opinion from someone who honestly knows first hand.

I wish each of these women the best and hope against hope the ones who need help will seek it. After all, there's a lot of talk of psychotropic meds on this site for no one to be on them. At the very least, some cognitive therapy or anger management classes are in order don't you think?

Anonymous said...

Enigma is Sandra/Sandy...

Aanica said...

Thank you :)

Anonymous said...

I wonder if these gang mentality cyber bullies that attack lone people in packs like rabid dogs the way we have seen here against Aanica realize that this behavior IS what defines cyber bullying.

They painfully failed to prove any of the accusations they alleged, the links they provided proved nothing (except that whoever posted them is a complete IDIOT)

Several claims have been made about her (Aanica) dabbling in the occult but when pressed for proof the same link to a thread at "BigOrb" shows up again and again (obviously from the same imbecile) A link to a thread that shows a known emotionally challenged woman babbling in caps about Aanica, accusing her of being someone else named the "Black Crow" (or something like that) and in her paranoia was SURE she was talking about her to other members via PM behind her back.

Furthermore Aanica is NOT "Juliana", who claims to be a "white witch" in her profile and is rambling on in Latin in that thread for reasons unknown. That Juliana person is a troll that was obviously slapped by Aanica elsewhere and came running in a salivating frenzy at the mention of her name in that OP written in caps by a very confused and extremely volatile woman. (Lisa L.)

Sound confusing? It should because the "BigOrb" link which keeps resurfacing makes absolutely no sense whatsoever and proves even less.

So you like to gang up on solitary women in packs?

You like to tell troubled children they really DO see and hear dead people because it provides you with a media to promote yourself as a "psychic mentor", then viciously and maliciously attack anyone that questions this?

You want to assume you can't be identified by posting under pseudonyms and perhaps proxy IPs?

You like to stalk and follow someone around the net because you are are deranged psychopath struggling with menopausal impulses, rapidly depleting vitality and sharply diminished mental acuity? (yes it's more than apparent) Then you have the unmitigated gall to call her a "coward" under a several false names? (sooooo unimpressed btw)

Well some of you are in for a HUGE surprise, as more than one of you has already been positively identified. (one for certain and 2 more are pending definitive confirmation)

Life is about choices ladies and gentlemen and some of you have made some really bad ones recently.

Enough talk.

Anonymous said...

Yes, the evidence is really piling up at this point that Enigma has posted here under multiple identities to satiate here irrepressible compulsion to stalk and harass others the net as the serial cyber-bully she has incessantly proven herself to be over the last 4 years or so.

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Enigma
August 25, 2011 at 12:32 pm
Oh, brother….What nonsensical drivel.

Enigma
March 2, 2009 at 12:44 am
... which is pretty much his normal method of operation . He likes to play the ‘victim’ and puts on this ‘pity poor me’ act, which is not only nauseating, but entirely fake. ..

Enigma
October 1, 2009 at 8:34 am
To write Britt’s actions off as just something funny that he did is (in my opinion) indicative of why we live in such a screwed up world where this type of asinine behavior is encouraged, accepted and supported by those who want to make nonsensical analogies about having ‘jungle sex’ with their spouses and filming it and try to compare that with what Britt did with his giant, plastic dong....

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Sandra said...
So full of envy and hate...Poor little Aanica. Save the "net" for yourself. I don't think I have ever encountered someone as loony or obnoxious on the internet as you. But then, this type of petty, asinine behavior has been your method of operation for several years now, and on many other web sites. You have been banned and run off from so many sites now that it mus be hard for you to keep track. Hopefully, Mr. Robinson will end your tyrranical bullying and non-stop attacks on various posters his web site. You can keep on denying that you need mental health assistance, but anyone who reads your nonsensical drivel can discern for themselves that you are crazier than an outhouse rat. You must be a real peach to be around in real life! I sincerely hope that you do not have children, as I pray that you have not passed on your insanity to them. Now go up your dose.

* (She happens to be a fine mother for the record whereas no man has ever wanted to impregnate or even touch you for that matter. You nasty, sick, twisted, gutter-snipe, hillbilly trash )

Anonymous said...

(continued)

*Here she uses "subterfuge" twice in this one post were Enigima, the undisputed matriarch of pretentious para-drama, pretends to care about "TAPSCON" with more of her usual ridiculously laughable, exaggerated phony righteous indignation which has come to be known as her modus operandi. Wow, what a crusader for the collective greater-good of the para community this dingbat has comported herself to be! LOL

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Enigma
March 30, 2009 at 9:24 am
"Many people (myself included) have been waiting for other credible individuals (who are tired of seeing unscrupulous people keep clouding the real issues with useless subterfuge) come forward and share their stories.........."

"Many of those who are supporting Brent and Nancy are hoping that people will lose sight of the real reasons why people are speaking up and speaking out about TAPSCON—especially if they inject enough drama into the situation. However, there is no amount of subterfuge that will ever lessen or in any way take away from the facts that you have outlined..............."

Sandra said...
."..She is an expert at trying to create subterfuge and she likes to try to take the focus off of her insanity, but her past history alone speaks volumes as to her obvious mental illness!..."

Anonymous said...

Here she even took her obsessive stalker pathology and seething hate-speech on the road as Enigma and there is SO much to discuss there alone. Thus far we have adequately established beyond a shadow of a doubt that Enigma IS in fact "Sandra" in this thread and likely has posted under 2 other identities in another blog here at EOP that was also infested with her lunacy (textbook cyber bully behavior), what a schizo-whackball, talk about a coward!

Lets start with this as the final nail in the coffin of evidence which irrefutably matches Enigma to Sandra, then we can focus exclusively on how utterly, completely INSANE and driven by hate this psycho really is (I'm actually shocked myself to be honest)


http://www.skepticblog.org/2009/09/12/chipping-away-at-the-other-side/

Enigma says:
September 14, 2009 at 1:36 pm
You sure seem to be a bit obsessed with defecating all over people–you sir have some serious issues. Go seek some mental health assistance. Really—the sooner, the better.

Sandra said..
You can keep on denying that you need mental health assistance


There are plenty of other words, phrases and dialectic idioms like: "nutty", "poor little you", "I pity you"."nut-job", "whack-job" and other variations on the same rhetoric unquestionably connecting Enigma to Sandra and other identities here that have also engaged in almost identical cyber bullying tactics.

Again, we obviously have MUCH to discuss about this depraved, bullying, obsessive, hate-baiting, profanity spewing, mood-swinging, multi-personalitied, melodramatic wretch.

(stay tuned)

Aanica said...

Thank God for intelligent friends :)

Anonymous said...

So she was "TomTom" too if not ALL of the other trolls on the other blog.

"Up the dosage", "Up the Meds"

She has such a tiny, limited little repertoire. Her inferiority complex is what drives her.

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Enigma says:
September 14, 2009 at 1:36 pm
"Cuckoo-cuckoo…cuckoo-cuckoo….cuckoo-cuckoo…Time to “up” your dosage me thinks! Do you even remotely grasp how psychotic and out-of-touch with reality you come across as being???...."

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TomTom said...

"...Poor thing. Do you feel better yet? try upping your dose."

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""Cuckoo-cuckoo…cuckoo-cuckoo….cuckoo-cuckoo" sums her up perfectly.

Anonymous said...

Much the way this evidently sums up her love life:

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Enigma says:
September 13, 2009 at 3:57 pm

"Or perhaps “Mr. Psychic Guy” just needs to light to some candles, draw a hot bubble bath, pour himself a tall glass of wine, put on some Sade, diddle himself and then go take a nice, long nap….It might do wonders for him."


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I just threw up in my mouth a little.

t8 said...

"A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step. Lao-tzu"

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